>>I understand your words. However, if you don't know something for sure, >>i.e., you only think it may be the case, then why strenuously argue the >>>issue?
Because thats MY HONEST BELIEF based on everything I have ever heard in my entire life on the topic. I dont have to know "for sure" to know what I beleive because it seems to me you dont know "for sure" the contrary or do you? You or no one else on this forum has provided me with anything to change that belief based on the 10 years of DVD experience/involvement I have. Regarding those players you just mention, I dont BELIEVE those were meant for distribution in the USA, they would be in the major chains if they were. I believe those are being sold on a gray or black market here, probably intended for those countries where region coding is not peritted by new laws as some other posters have noted. Until I hear otherwise from trusty sources or see them being sold at the major U.S. chains, my belief will not change on the matter. Is that clear enough for you? jco -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom C Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 12:09 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: RE: OT - for those of you whohaveDVDequipthatcanplayPALsystemDVD's There are major brand multi-region DVD players like Samsung, JVC, Pioneer, and others that are sold here in the US, not just off-brand Malayasian, Korean, and Chinese imports. I understand your words. However, if you don't know something for sure, i.e., you only think it may be the case, then why strenuously argue the issue? Tom C. >From: "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" <[email protected]> >Subject: RE: RE: OT - for those of you >whohaveDVDequipthatcanplayPALsystemDVD's >Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:57:17 -0400 > >I already stated this multiple times, my contention >is that there is a legal issue preventing >the sale of non region 1 DVD players in >the USA. There may be some off brand units >slipping thru the cracks or loopholes being >sold by some minor retailers, but I dont >think that means that there isnt a legal >issue of some sort, like worldwide DVD liscensing >agreements, preventing the sale of these by >the major retailers/suppliers in the USA. Is that clear >enough for you now? >jco > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >Tom C >Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 11:25 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: RE: OT - for those of you whohaveDVD >equipthatcanplayPALsystemDVD's > > >Back online... > >JCO, > >I thought earlier you said you weren't actually contending anything >because you used the words "from everything I've heard". > >Are you contending something or not? I've heard lots of things in >life, but I usually don't contend and argue my point based on things >I've heard. I try >to do it based on things I know. > >My contention is that buying and using both non-region 1 DVD's and >multi-region DVD players in North America in order to view said DVD's >in > >North America is not illegal or unlawful. I make that contention >because numerous legitimate licensed business are allowed to sell those >products. > >I don't need to go check the laws on this before I go make a purchase, >just as I don't go check the laws or make inquiries as to whether the >food I purchase at the grocery store was grown and handled according to >government >regulations. In fact I'm sure there's a higher chance the food I ate >last >night at my dinner table was handled by illegal, undocumented aliens, >than >there is that anything illegal has been done with regard to multi-region >DVD >players in North America. > >I don't have to prove anything. You are the one that started out >contending something was illegal, and unless you've provided evidence >that it is, in >subsequent posts I haven't read, the ball is still in your court. > > >Tom C. > > > >From: "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > >To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" <[email protected]> > >Subject: RE: RE: OT - for those of you whohaveDVD equipthat > >canplayPALsystemDVD's > >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 20:01:26 -0400 > > > >SCREW HIM, then he needs to show evidence (prove) that > >it is NOT a legal issue regarding the sale > >of region free DVD players in the USA. I > >dont have to "prove" any of my contentions > >any more or to a higher level of "proof" > >than he has to back up his contentions. DUH. > > > >jco > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > >Of > > >Mark Roberts > >Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 7:27 PM > >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >Subject: Re: RE: OT - for those of you whohaveDVD equipthat can > >playPALsystemDVD's > > > > > >Tom C wrote: > > > > >What we want from you is to have you say, "Well guys, I guess I was > > >wrong and you were not breaking the law or doing anything illegal > > >by buying, owning, using, or hacking to make become, region-free > > >DVD players. My misunderstanding." > > > >Either that or cite the statute for the law that's being broken (or > >show a copy of the licence agreement that's being violated). > > > >Anyone going to hold their breath until either one happens? > > > > > >-- > >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >[email protected] > >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > >-- > >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >[email protected] > >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >[email protected] >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >[email protected] >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
