You, me, and the only guy who actually did a real study on that seem to 
be the only ones who understand that, Bob. The study, done for his 
dissertation, showed that bike lanes were the most dangerous, and 
pedestrian ways the next. Riding in traffic was the safest, if the rider 
obeyed the traffic laws. Oh yes, this only concerned car/bike accidents, 
so my take on it is that if you are extra careful at road crossings the 
pedestrian ways are probably safe. My own way is to act like a car when 
riding in the road, and like a pedestrian when riding on pedestrian ways 
that way drivers know what to expect of me.

-graywolf


Bob W wrote:
>> Road riding does scare me due to the traffic
> 
> I find riding on roads much more enjoyable than riding in bike lanes
> or on canal towpaths or suchlike. At least on the road you can go
> fast, don't have to keep stopping, and pedestrians aren't constantly
> getting in your way. As a general rule bike lanes, especially those
> that are segregated from traffic, are the worst idea anyone ever
> implemented for cyclists. Bike lanes should all be removed.
> 
> The secret of riding successfully on the road is to understand that
> you are a vehicle with the same rights and duties as every other
> vehicle, and to cycle as if you were driving a car - same road
> position, same approach to left & right turns and to junctions, etc.
> 
> Riding off-road on things like bridlepaths in the country is very
> enjoyable too though.
> 
> --
>  Bob
>  
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
>> Behalf Of David Mann
>> Sent: 05 May 2007 08:12
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Re: OT - more bike stuff
>>
>> On May 5, 2007, at 12:06 AM, frank theriault wrote:
>>
>>> 49 tooth chainring, 17 tooth cog.
>> It looked a lot higher than that.  Maybe the frame is a little  
>> smaller than I thought.  I was thinking you had tree-trunk legs and
> 
>> were running something stupid like 54:12.
>>
>> In its commuting setup my singlespeed is running 44:14.  Our central
> 
>> city is completely flat so I find that gear works quite well. 
>>  In off- 
>> road mode I run 32:18.  This does make for tough climbing 
>> (especially  
>> on the second lap) but I like to be able to pedal around the  
>> singletrack at reasonable speeds.  It may sound like an unnecessary
> 
>> compromise but there's just something about singlespeeding.   
>> Especially offroad on a clear night with a good set of lights :) :)
>>
>>> Well, I've never done any off-roading.  When I see a bike 
>> like that, I
>>> tell myself that I really should give it a try sometime.  Looks
> like
>>> fun!!
>> Sure does :)
>> http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/photodb/view.php?p=212
>>
>> I'm not much of a downhill rider... I go more for the cross-country
> 
>> riding but I have been riding a lot harder since I got the Enduro.
> 
>> It gives a lot more confidence on tracks that used to scare me.
>>
>> Road riding does scare me due to the traffic but I have actually  
>> given some thought to buying a proper road bike so I can still do  
>> some decent riding when the tracks are too soggy.
>>
>> The trouble is, there are so many bikes on my wish-list right now  
>> it's hard to know which to get first...
>>
>> - Dave
>>
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