David Savage wrote: > On 5/5/07, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> As a general rule bike lanes, especially those >> that are segregated from traffic, are the worst idea anyone ever >> implemented for cyclists. Bike lanes should all be removed. > > I think cyclists shouldn't be allowed on the roads period. > > The majority seem to pay no attention to the traffic coming up behind > them, and don't even hesitate in pulling out into the centre of the > lane to get around parked cars etc. As a driver they're unpredictable > behaviour makes me extremely nervous.
Treat them like a car. Pass them like a car. Problem solved. You're assuming they don't have the right to the lane, they do. > > It also bugs the shit out of me when I get stuck behind a bunch of > Tour de France wannabes riding 4 abreast, having a nice chat and > blocking half the effing lane. Perfectly legal. Pass them like you would a car in that lane. > > Cheers, > > Dave > Except that Cyclists (even 1) have the full right to block the lane, they have the same right to it that you do. The fact that they're willing to ride 4 abreast in one lane is irrelevant. yeah, traffic laws need to be enforced more against cyclists (who are notorious for ignoring certain things, like stop signs) but that doesn't change the fact that they have full right to the lane. The problem with Bike Lanes is that drivers love to stop in them, and ignore them at intersections. Bike lanes would be a lot safer if fouling them had any legal repercussions. The key is proper enforcement of traffic law, against both cyclists and drivers. Bikes belong on the street for the most part. The speed differential between a bike and a pedestrian makes cycling on the sidewalk a disaster waiting to happen, I'm moving a lot closer to a cars speed than a pedestrians (unless I'm on a MUT, where I respect the lower speed limit). The simple reason you don't get many accidents with sidewalk riders is that they are the slowest and most timid riders. Force every cyclist onto the sidewalk and you'll have injured pedestrians and cyclists everywhere, due to density and speed. I'm not going to piddle around at 10km/h or less, and neither are most commuters or messengers. Expecting us to get off the roads is insane. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
