Tim, I would try masking the front bird and reduce the saturation of the remaining image to almost B&W and maybe also adjusting the brightness and or contrast of the background. Should be a nice photoshop exercise. Toine
On 5/24/07, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Some NEWS first: > I'm now prepering my first "commersial" displaying at a local cafe. It is > noting big, just a wall to display at. And most of the regular visitors > arent excactly the type to pay money for photography. So I don't expect > much. Never the less, it is kind of exiting :-) > > The birds in Heavy Weather series means something for me, despite the mixed > reviews. The idea is to display then next to some slick looking "Bird in > Sunset" etc.pictures, to make a contrast. > It might be a bad idea, but I think it's the right thing to do, for me. > > And now, the PHOTO: > You may remember this > http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=308716 > and Godfreys response (at the bottom of this post). Those of you who are > less senile than me, may also remember that I responded claiming Photoshop > phobia, and asked for more concrete suggstions on how to make the separation > better. He responded by adwising me to get rid of my Photoshop phobia by > picking up some books. > I'm doing that now, reading. > And it seem to help. In fact it is rather fun. Now I'm actually able to open > Elements without a major sweating attack ;-) > So thank you very much Godfrey for kicking me in my lower back region. > > Now I'm looking at the photo, the one that triggered the "read some books" > suggestion. I'm looking for ways to make the separation between the bird and > the surroundings better. Haven't come up with a solution yet. > So now I'm asking more. (That's the downside of doing people favours, they > tend to come back for more (-; ) > Could you please give me some hints on what techniques to use, to acomplish > the goal, a better separation? > I'm not asking for tutoring or detailed explonations. Just some simple > hints, on what to go for, and what tools. > > I could make the crop a wider, and move the "offending" bird down a tiny > bit. That would probably help. But I think it needs a bit more. Something > adding some punch to the bird and the bird alone. I don't think encreasing > saturation of the bird more is the right direction. Encreased saturation > will alter the mood of the shot. > > But I'm open to most suggestions. > Unless they means to go back to reshoot. Havent got time for that. It ain't > snowing all year here ;-) > > > Tim Typo > Mostly Harmless > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 6:50 PM > Subject: Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2 > > > I like the idea in this photo a lot. What I would like to see is a > bit more separation between the foreground bird and its surroundings. > You might be able to do that with a little bit of careful image > processing work. > > Godfrey > > On May 7, 2007, at 11:38 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: > > > I've already displayed the first one. I think I have material for > > four of > > five in a Birds in Heavy Weather serie. > > The idea of making a serie of them is partly inspired by Marnie's > > projects. > > http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=308716 > > I like the composition in this one. Not fancy, but effecient. > > > > Thumb up, or thumb down folks? > > When asking, I'm thinking of this photo and about the serie idea. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.5/793 - Release Date: 07.05.2007 > 14:55 > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- -- Toine http://leende.net/peso -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

