On 8/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Snip > On the other hand, although I'm a fan of Gary Winogrand, I have to say that > this football shot does nothing for me. The action is not particularly > interesting, and to my eye, the composition is ordinary. It's not even a > slice of American. But that's just me. > Paul
I'm not a fan of Winogrand, I thought I was, but I found that I liked some of his shots, probably the more popular ones, the ones that are easy to read, the other ones, I don't get them, I guess I leave that to knowledgeable guys, who have the time and dedication to study an artist's body of work, I'm lazy and impatient, I don't get conceptual photography for the same reason. I do like Winogrand's philosophy, at least for what I read, and I do admire his dedication and simplicity (again, for what I read). Speaking of this shot, when I saw it for the first time, I just thought, "I like it" didn't really stop to think why, and I'm going to try to put words on it, I'm not good with words, and I need to translate them to English afterwards so, we might loose some stuff on the road, but here I go: I like the fact that the tilt looks as if it's helping the attacking team, it goes perfectly with the front line of runners, and is like "pushing" the two defending players to the floor; I like to wander with my eyes and pay attention to some of the small details, the attacker stopping the defender on the right side of the frame, pushing him out of the frame, the referee marks to me a boundary of the game field, and the wide angle emphasizes the feeling that the viewer "is there", in the middle of the action, plus the sky adds drama. Now, in context, I'm not a sports fan, and I don't watch football, so, my virgin football eyes might have caught some fairly common scene and think of it as something original. I don't even think I myself would value the "slice of American" if it were there, the American culture I get comes from Seinfeld and the Simpsons ;-). So what can I say Paul, Vive la difference!!! ;o) > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: Fernando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > It's a great shot, nice perspective, IMHO the fact that you didn't > > have a tele actually helped, it forces you to look for a more original > > perspective, doesn't it? > > > > One of my favorite sports shots was actually done using a wideangle: > > http://masters-of-photography.com/W/winogrand/winogrand_austin_full.html > > > > > > > > On 8/21/07, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This weekend my youngest, Claire, had her end-of-the-season soccer > > > tournament. I'll likely post some "pround papa" photos later. > > > > > > Until then, this may be the best photo I took all day. I was hampered > > > by a short lens (the only lens I have for my *istD is the 18-55mm, > > > being that I still haven't loaded the firmware updates). > > > > > > It's not my daughter, she's on the red team, and not even in the > > > frame, but as I said, maybe the best shot I got on the day: > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/3ypt4o > > > > > > > > http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/Rsrc6V2id_I/AAAAAAAAAlQ/wbVrJkexJBo/s1600-h/ > > claire_soccer+005.jpg > > > > > > Comments always welcome. > > > > > > thanks, > > > frank > > > > > > -- > > > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > > > > > -- > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > [email protected] > > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > [email protected] > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
