I quit submitting quite a while ago. I think I only put up one shot since the 
peer judging was introduced. It was one that had previously been accepted but 
that I had felt a need to edit. It was promptly rejected. I'm okay with what I 
have now ( even the dragonfly:-), so I doubt that I'll try again. Too time 
consuming.
Paul
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From: Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Probably just my own complaining, but I do continue to see a large
> slant towards outdoor (scenic) and street photography.  One real downside to
> 'artists' voting before the judges even get a crack at it, is those
> biases can come out.  For example, after seeing about 400 dragonflies
> and butterflies I tend to be a little harsher in my judgements.  I
> also tend to be a little critical of photos of art - statues,
> paintings, etc.  As near as I can tell from timing of
> acceptance/rejection, it appears that there is a tally of votes on a
> photo - when it reaches a threshold of either accept or reject, the
> photo is taken out of the voting.  The rejects are simply rejected
> without judge intervention and the accepted are then put on hold (not
> actual status) waiting for the judges to decide.
> 
> So technically excellent studio or wedding work will largely go
> unnoticed unless it involves a beautiful girl.
> 
> Case in point - I had submitted the recent bridal portrait shot I show
> here, prior to showing on the list.  It was rejected within hours -
> which would indicate the judges had not even seen it (the judges take
> much longer to get to a photo than that - usually days).  I then
> showed it on list here and got a very strong positive response to it
> from people I would consider pretty critical.  So I decided to
> resubmit it to see what would happen.  This time it took a little
> longer to reject, but it did get rejected in a time frame that would
> lead me to believe the judges did not see it.
> 
> I guess the real problem with a gallery like that is no one wants to
> see quality work of other humans unless then know them.  Since they
> don't know them, it needs to be more like a NG shot of a beggar or a
> small child which all of us relate to.
> 
> Anyway, just some thoughts.
> 
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