No one here says it would be easier. Further, no one cares if you choose to 
hand hold because you find it easier. That's your business.

I question the idea that it's "...almost impossible to frame correctly when 
using a tripod." ... and shooting a train was your example. This may be true 
for you and/or with the gear with which you tried it, but a tripod, as in 
all tripods, seems pretty broad.

I have an excellent Gitzo pan head for use with my movie camera. Works 
pretty damn good. Control is excellent. I've never put any of my Pentax gear 
on it though.

Regards,
Bob...
--------------------------------------------------------
"Life isn't like a box of chocolates . .
it's more like a jar of jalapenos.
What you do today, might burn your butt tomorrow."

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Glen Tortorella" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


>I have done it many times.  It is much easier when holding the camera
> with one's hands.
>
> Glen
>
> On Sep 7, 2007, at 3:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> I have no idea what you're asking. You said the movie folk make it
>> look easy. I tried to explain that while it may look easy in the
>> finished product, it takes a lot of work to get there. Nothing
>> more. Peter attempted to make the same point. When shooting with a
>> camera on tripod with a movie head or any head, you don't get a
>> chance to frame before you shoot -- assuming you haven't hired a
>> train and crew to work with you. You make your best guess and try
>> to keep the train in frame as it roars by. That's easier when
>> you're handholding. Been there, done that.
>> Paul
>>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
>> From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> You keep the train in frame the "frame" of your choice until you
>>> pass the
>>> point of shutter trip. You can know where that point is whether
>>> you hand
>>> hold or use a tripod.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Bob...
>>> --------------------------------------------------------
>>> "Life isn't like a box of chocolates . .
>>> it's more like a jar of jalapenos.
>>> What you do today, might burn your butt tomorrow."
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>
>>>
>>>> And the movie folk get as many takes as they want. "Okay, back
>>>> her up and
>>>> do it again."
>>>
>>> And you don't - and the difference between your hand holding and
>>> letting a
>>> movie head hold the weight of the camera and reduce vibration
>>> is... what?
>>>
>>>> Not to mention that they can get their frame and focus  with the
>>>> train
>>>> parked.
>>>
>>> And you THINK you can't - and the difference between your hand
>>> holding and
>>> letting a movie head hold the weight of the camera and reduce
>>> vibration
>>> is... what?
>>>
>>>> G[e]nerally, they mark the lens for different focus points along the
>>>> track, and as the train moves with the camera rolling, the camera
>>>> assistant "pulls focus."
>>>
>>> And you don't have this convenience - and the difference between
>>> your hand
>>> holding and letting a movie head hold the weight of the camera and
>>> reduce
>>> vibration is... what?
>>>
>>>
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