Hmm...that was my concern: decent neg/slide scans.  I guess it is  
better to go with separate units, a printer and dedicated scanner.

Thanks,
Glen

On Sep 26, 2007, at 12:32 PM, Adam Maas wrote:

> Good printers, at least the Epson 6-ink ones (they use the same  
> print engine as the R2/300's). The scanners in them are really only  
> suitable for documents and prints, I wouldn't even bother trying to  
> get decent neg/slide scans out of them.
>
> -Adam
>
>
> Glen Tortorella wrote:
>> Thank you, Adam.  How do you feel about the all-in-one printers?  The
>> Canon PIXMA MP810 and Epson RX680 look pretty nice, but I am no  
>> expert.
>>
>> Glen
>>
>> On Sep 26, 2007, at 10:20 AM, Adam Maas wrote:
>>
>>> For printer's you can't do better than the Epson R2x0 series. The
>>> higher-priced R3x0's are the same printers with more features
>>> (LCD's, DVD trays) but identical print quality. I've got the R320
>>> myself and the print quality is superb on good paper (I use Epson
>>> Premium Luster). Ink is always expensive until you get into the pro
>>> models (Where the tanks are expensive, but hold 10-100x as much  
>>> ink).
>>>
>>> For scanners, I'd look at the Epson 4490 with a pair of
>>> Betterscanning.com 35mm ANR inserts, or a used Minolta Scan Dual
>>> III or IV and a copy of Vuescan (The minolta software doesn't work
>>> on 10.4, it will work on 10.3)
>>>
>>> -Adam
>>>
>>>
>>> Glen Tortorella wrote:
>>>> Thank you, Adam.  I have a relatively recent iMac (running 10 point
>>>> something), but the printer I own was given to me, and it is an  
>>>> older
>>>> one (an inkjet) with mediocre poor print quality and expensive
>>>> cartridges ($30 at Wal-Mart).  Thus, if I take your advice and  
>>>> go the
>>>> scanner route, I would have to buy a scanner and printer.  What  
>>>> would
>>>> about $200 or so (for each) buy?  I gather the new inkjets are a  
>>>> good
>>>> deal better than those made five or ten years ago?  The older  
>>>> inkjets
>>>> I have seen make digital photos look like a study in Seuratian
>>>> pointilism and blue-is-green-black-is-purple color variance.
>>>>
>>>> Glen
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 25, 2007, at 9:59 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Get a scanner, and you can do the same with your film stuff.  
>>>>> All my
>>>>> film
>>>>> work (and I'm only shooting film now) is scanned and printed  
>>>>> with an
>>>>> inkjet. It works pretty well for me.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Adam
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Glen Tortorella wrote:
>>>>>> Good commentary, Godfrey.  Have you read Rebekah's remarks?  I  
>>>>>> tend
>>>>>> to think that this is just another financial black hole.  On the
>>>>>> surface, I think: great! I can just get a good deal on a DSLR,
>>>>>> buy a
>>>>>> rreasonably-priced printer, hook it up to my IMac, and make as  
>>>>>> many
>>>>>> prints as I wish, but then there are those "hidden" costs...ink,
>>>>>> paper, software, and who knows what else...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps this is why I have tried to remain ignorant of the DSLR
>>>>>> world.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Glen
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 25, 2007, at 9:16 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Glen Tortorella wrote:
>>>>>>>> While I have been resistant to digital for quite some time, I
>>>>>>>> find
>>>>>>>> this article interesting.  The idea of getting a good "budget"
>>>>>>>> DSLR
>>>>>>>> has crossed my mind, but I know so little about working within
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> DSLR format that I cannot get motivated to buy one.  I tend to
>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>> prints.  Thus, I ask the supremely elementary question: how  
>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>> turn the zeros and ones stored in the DSLR's memory into  
>>>>>>>> prints?
>>>>>>>> Would a computer and/or scanner be necessary (I do not have a
>>>>>>>> scanner, but I do have an iMac), or can a camera shop or photo
>>>>>>>> lab
>>>>>>>> supply the means to do this if one does not have a scanner?
>>>>>>> You're asking these questions as if you knew nothing at all,
>>>>>>> which I
>>>>>>> suspect isn't quite true.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - No scanner is used when you're using a digital camera.  
>>>>>>> Scanners
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> used to capture film and print images into digital images. A
>>>>>>> digital
>>>>>>> camera produces digital images.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - You print a digital camera's photos the same way you print
>>>>>>> anything
>>>>>>> else: to a printer connected to either camera or computer, to an
>>>>>>> online print service having moved the image files from camera to
>>>>>>> computer, or by using a printer kiosk at a local store.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - If you have an iMac, you connect the camera to the computer  
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> its supplied cable. By default, iPhoto (supplied on every Apple
>>>>>>> system by default) will start up and download all the
>>>>>>> photographs so
>>>>>>> you can sort, show, and print them, to either a connected  
>>>>>>> printer
>>>>>>> via
>>>>>>> a print service on the internet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And, finally, how does the K100D compare to the Nikon...the
>>>>>>>> D40 or
>>>>>>>> D50, I gather?
>>>>>>> A matter of opinion. They all work well at the level of  
>>>>>>> questions
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> are posing. If you already have Pentax lenses, it makes sense
>>>>>>> to buy
>>>>>>> a Pentax DSLR: it will save you money. If you don't have Pentax
>>>>>>> lenses, pick whichever one feels best in your hands and enjoy
>>>>>>> it ...
>>>>>>> they all work better than the majority of owners can exploit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Godfrey
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