Tom,

You may have noticed how the amount of support has diminished and the
cost of support has increased.  I can't even imagine attempting to
support something on the scale of Windows running on almost any
mish-mashed hardware.  Maybe the bigger rejoicing is the ability to
say "Try upgrading, maybe that will fix your problems."  Many times it
is a clean install that does the trick.  But what a cost to the user
to do a clean install.  I bought a whole new laptop (Sony) to have
Win2K pre-installed with all drivers, etc working rather than attempt
to upgrade my older HP laptop to run Win2K.  Too many things would
cease to work correctly, especiallly on a laptop.


Bruce



Friday, November 09, 2001, 11:25:20 AM, you wrote:

a> Bruce,

a> One other thought I had.

a> On Microsoft's part, while maybe not a deliberate *conspiracy*, but surely a
a> deliberate act, operating systems are written with little attempt to
a> optimize efficiency, with the knowledge that they will require new hardware.
a> New hardware will necessarily come with the new operating system
a> pre-installed.

a> I'm sure hardware makers (the fat cats there) rejoice at the new OS releases
a> as much as the software fat cats.

a> Is it bad?  Well it's kept the economy going for a long time.

a> Is it good?  Depends who you are.

a> Tom C.

a> ----- Original Message -----
a> From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
a> To: "aimcompute" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
a> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:08 AM
a> Subject: Re[2]: Windows XP - Scary! (Was=3 A OT: A computer question...)


>> aimcompute,
>>
>> I've been writing code for 20 years and have never encountered a
>> company requiring the code to be ineffecient.  On the contrary,
>> programmers are quite capable, without being told, to write
>> ineffecient code.  Most commonly are deadlines, which don't allow the
>> code to be optimized.  The other big problem is that code is very
>> heavily layered, such that most of the layers were not written by the
>> programmer trying to do the optimization.  They are many times viewed
>> as black boxes.
>>
>> In the old days, hardware was more expensive than software
>> development, so you had to be very careful to not overtax the
>> hardware.  Today, hardware is quite cheap, so many just rely on
>> hardware upgrades to make up for ineffecient code.
>>
>> Conspiracy? No.
>> Something else (attitude, economics, ineptitude)? Yes!
>>
>> For the ultimate in inefficiency, try checkout out the Palm OS world
>> to the PocketPC world.  PocketPC tries to overcome in hardware, great
>> waste and inefficiency in software.  It is a real eye opener.
>>
>>
>> Bruce Dayton
>>
>>
>>
>> Friday, November 09, 2001, 9:54:53 AM, you wrote:
>>
>> a> Do you know better?
>>
>> a> I've worked with some commercial software products where when you look
a> at
>> a> the internals, a program may be doing something thousands of times that
a> it
>> a> only needed to do once.  Or it's not filtering data at the appropriate
>> a> places and hence tablizing tens of thousands of records and moving them
a> all
>> a> over the place.
>>
>> a> As time goes by, data volume grows, and performance nose dives.  Time
a> to
>> a> upgrade the hardware!
>>
>> a> Suspicious that the software and hardware companies always "partner" to
>> a> bring the best to corporate America and consumers.
>>
>> a> Tom C.
>>
>> a> ----- Original Message -----
>> a> From: "Kent Gittings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> a> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> a> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 7:36 AM
>> a> Subject: RE: Windows XP - Scary! (Was=3 A OT: A computer question...)
>>
>>
>> >> It also depends on the speed of the PC. If I didn't know better I
a> suspect
>> >> that Microsoft put in some instability code tied to a timing loop that
>> a> makes
>> >> it a little shaky the slower the machine you put it on. Sort of a deal
a> to
>> >> make people buy faster PC's.
>> >> Kent Gittings
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