Agreed, and I'm one of those available darkness Tri-X heads. Even 3200 on the D and DS is better than film (I'd rate it similar to most films at 1600).
-Adam P. J. Alling wrote: > Tri-X heads shooting available light were always looking for more speed. > It was the content that counted not so much the quality. I find that > both the *ist-D and Ds give better results at 1600 than most any film > I've ever used. It's worth raving about. > > Tom C wrote: >> With the caveat regarding who knows about Pentax?... >> >> I'd take a full frame sensor that did very well between 200 - 400 ISO any >> day (ISO 800) w/b nice, over any sensor that had marginal high ISO >> performance at 1600 and above. I find any photo I take at 1600 or higher >> with the *ist D to be, while documentary, not worth a heck of alot >> otherwise. I am loathe to set ISO over 800. >> >> Thinking back to film, I rarely shot anything over 400, and many times I was >> pushing 100 two stops to get 400. When I needed more light gathering >> ability the camera was on a tripod and I used longer shutter speeds. >> >> I wouldn't mind that at all because I find the high ISO performance of >> DSLR's to be no more desirable than the performance of high ISO films. >> >> Who *seriously* shoots at ISO1600+ and gets results they would rave about? >> For my kind of photgraphy it doesn't work near as well as a lower ISO and a >> tripod. >> >> Tom C. >> >> >> >> >>> From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s) >>> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 11:47:22 -0400 (EDT) >>> >>> Adam Maas wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Not only an old sensor, but one with extremely poor high ISO >>>> >>> performance >>> >>>> (it's the Sensor Kodak used in the DCS14n, DCS/n and DCS/c). >>>> >>> Well they may have improved it since then: The data sheet shows it's >>> been revised, January 2007 -- they've nearly doubled the frame rate >>> >> >from 1.7 fps to 3 fps, for example. >> >>> Not that it has any bearing on Pentax, AFAIK. >>> >>> BTW: >>> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=25298198 >>> ;-) >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >>> >> >> >> > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

