I could make that argument. However it's not clear the K10d has too many improvements, though at a price in size and weight. I like the size of the *ist-D and Ds. If Pentax built a *ist-D follow on, (the K10d is really a different beast entirely), or a *ist-Ds follow on, (the K100/110 are more like DL follow ons), with 10mp sensors and a pentaprism, with or without IS and the ability to use the new supersonic focusing lenses, I think they'd have another winner.
Paul Stenquist wrote: > I agree completely. I misread your earlier comment. I thought you > said it was a better camera than a K10D. > Sorry. > Paul > On Oct 30, 2007, at 3:05 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > > >> Larger buffer better view finder, same sensor. The Jpeg processing is >> more pleasing to those who're moving up from a P&S, but I doubt that >> you'd shoot Jpeg and who except a beginner would shoot Jpeg without >> setting up the camera to their liking. You disagree? Still obviously >> you want an argument so I guess you do. By the way have you even >> seen a >> K110D or it's direct ancestor the DL, let alone bought one? I >> thought not. >> >> Paul Stenquist wrote: >> >>> Strange. Why is a Ds a better camera overall? Enlighten us. >>> Paul >>> On Oct 29, 2007, at 8:21 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> K110d's seem to be MIA, not available anywhere, but then again a >>>> used Ds >>>> or Ds2 sells for less and is a better camera overall. >>>> >>>> Adam Maas wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> I doubt it, from everything I've seen, Pentax has been shipping >>>>> K10D's >>>>> out to stores about as fast as they can get them in. >>>>> >>>>> K110D's on the other hand... >>>>> >>>>> -Adam >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Tom C wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I said alot more because the article said "Sales at the company, >>>>>> which also >>>>>> makes medical >>>>>> equipment rose 15 percent". >>>>>> >>>>>> I suspect alot of those sub-$700 K10D's are in the writedown. >>>>>> >>>>>> What is says to me is that while sales are up (good) and profit >>>>>> is up >>>>>> (good), due to the writedown, net income is down (bad). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Tom C. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown >>>>>>> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:51:00 -0400 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tom C wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Paraphrased from a 10/29 Bloomberg article: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pentax Corp., said first-half profit fell 45 percent, missing >>>>>>>> its own >>>>>>>> estimate, after writing down the value of its inventory. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Net income declined to 600 million yen ($5.3 million) in the >>>>>>>> six months >>>>>>>> ended Sept. 30, lagging behind its July forecast of 1.4 billion >>>>>>>> yen. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sales >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> at the company, which also makes medical >>>>>>>> equipment rose 15 percent. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "We have depreciated our inventory, including endoscopes, as we >>>>>>>> had >>>>>>>> difficulty competing with our rivals,'' mainly in North >>>>>>>> America, Jiro >>>>>>>> Okamura, a spokesman at the Tokyo-based company, said >>>>>>>> by telephone. The writedown led to a one-time loss of about 900 >>>>>>>> million >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> yen, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> he said. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The company's sales rose to 85.6 billion yen from 74.7 billion >>>>>>>> yen. >>>>>>>> Operating profit, or sales minus the cost of goods sold and >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> administrative >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> expenses, more than doubled to 3.3 billion yen from >>>>>>>> 1.56 billion yen. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Maybe those bargain basement camera prices in N.A. aren't that >>>>>>>> great >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> after >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> all. Selling a lot more things that aren't worth as much. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tom C. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> That could explain the recent flood of Pentax refurbs that I've >>>>>>> seen here >>>>>>> in Canada. They're going cheap too. Lots of low-end MZ's, FA-J >>>>>>> lenses, and >>>>>>> a few DS's and DL's. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you write down inventory, you aren't talking about 'Selling a >>>>>>> lot more >>>>>>> things that aren't worth as much.', you're talking about excess >>>>>>> stock. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It sounds like Pentax wrote down a fair bit of older stuff they >>>>>>> were >>>>>>> sitting on (like the aforementioned cheap film kit) which >>>>>>> impacted their >>>>>>> net income. Otherwise the numbers look good, especially the >>>>>>> operating >>>>>>> profit increase. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Adam >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly >>>>>>> above and >>>>>>> follow the directions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> The difference between individual intelligence and group >>>> intelligence is the difference between Harvard University and the >>>> Harvard University football team. >>>> >>>> -- P. J. 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