P. J. Alling wrote: > Larger buffer better view finder, same sensor. The Jpeg processing is > more pleasing to those who're moving up from a P&S, but I doubt that > you'd shoot Jpeg and who except a beginner would shoot Jpeg without > setting up the camera to their liking. You disagree? Still obviously > you want an argument so I guess you do. By the way have you even seen a > K110D or it's direct ancestor the DL, let alone bought one? I thought not. > He, he.
I actually observed someone using a DL last week, and have also seen it in shops before. But the K110D? I don't think so... I've also sort of toyed with the idea of getting a "low-end" digital body. I would have preferred the old kind of low-end, i.e. something without "auto everything", but might still consider the K110 if I could find one that was cheaper than the K100D by a reasonable margin. Which I can't; if the shops list the K110D at all, it seems to be at the original introduction price - where the K100D price has been reduced somewhat significantly. And the gap between the K10D and the K100D has probably narrowed, to... - T > Paul Stenquist wrote: > >> Strange. Why is a Ds a better camera overall? Enlighten us. >> Paul >> On Oct 29, 2007, at 8:21 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: >> >> >> >>> K110d's seem to be MIA, not available anywhere, but then again a >>> used Ds >>> or Ds2 sells for less and is a better camera overall. >>> >>> Adam Maas wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I doubt it, from everything I've seen, Pentax has been shipping >>>> K10D's >>>> out to stores about as fast as they can get them in. >>>> >>>> K110D's on the other hand... >>>> >>>> -Adam >>>> >>>> >>>> Tom C wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I said alot more because the article said "Sales at the company, >>>>> which also >>>>> makes medical >>>>> equipment rose 15 percent". >>>>> >>>>> I suspect alot of those sub-$700 K10D's are in the writedown. >>>>> >>>>> What is says to me is that while sales are up (good) and profit >>>>> is up >>>>> (good), due to the writedown, net income is down (bad). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Tom C. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> From: Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >>>>>> Subject: Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown >>>>>> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:51:00 -0400 >>>>>> >>>>>> Tom C wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Paraphrased from a 10/29 Bloomberg article: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pentax Corp., said first-half profit fell 45 percent, missing >>>>>>> its own >>>>>>> estimate, after writing down the value of its inventory. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Net income declined to 600 million yen ($5.3 million) in the >>>>>>> six months >>>>>>> ended Sept. 30, lagging behind its July forecast of 1.4 billion >>>>>>> yen. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Sales >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> at the company, which also makes medical >>>>>>> equipment rose 15 percent. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "We have depreciated our inventory, including endoscopes, as we >>>>>>> had >>>>>>> difficulty competing with our rivals,'' mainly in North >>>>>>> America, Jiro >>>>>>> Okamura, a spokesman at the Tokyo-based company, said >>>>>>> by telephone. The writedown led to a one-time loss of about 900 >>>>>>> million >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> yen, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> he said. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The company's sales rose to 85.6 billion yen from 74.7 billion >>>>>>> yen. >>>>>>> Operating profit, or sales minus the cost of goods sold and >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> administrative >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> expenses, more than doubled to 3.3 billion yen from >>>>>>> 1.56 billion yen. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Maybe those bargain basement camera prices in N.A. aren't that >>>>>>> great >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> after >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> all. Selling a lot more things that aren't worth as much. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tom C. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> That could explain the recent flood of Pentax refurbs that I've >>>>>> seen here >>>>>> in Canada. They're going cheap too. Lots of low-end MZ's, FA-J >>>>>> lenses, and >>>>>> a few DS's and DL's. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you write down inventory, you aren't talking about 'Selling a >>>>>> lot more >>>>>> things that aren't worth as much.', you're talking about excess >>>>>> stock. >>>>>> >>>>>> It sounds like Pentax wrote down a fair bit of older stuff they >>>>>> were >>>>>> sitting on (like the aforementioned cheap film kit) which >>>>>> impacted their >>>>>> net income. Otherwise the numbers look good, especially the >>>>>> operating >>>>>> profit increase. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Adam >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly >>>>>> above and >>>>>> follow the directions. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> The difference between individual intelligence and group >>> intelligence is the difference between Harvard University and the >>> Harvard University football team. >>> >>> -- P. J. 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