The shots in question aren't for the fat lady. They're for the  
corporation that owns the bowling alley. And they won't have a  
problem with the noise. Heck, some here can't even see it. If it was  
too obvious I could easily fix it. But that's beside the point. The  
noise is an isolated problem. It doesn't appear on any of the other  
shots I took that night. Only in this one area, under these lights,  
and with this clothing. I've shot 14,000 images with the K10D,  
without any being "ruined" by the camera. Although some were ruined  
by the photographer:-). Seriously, that may be the case here.  
Underexposure is the devil's handmaiden when it comes to noise. And I  
purposely underexposed the midrange and shadow detail in the two pics  
that show noise to avoid blowing out the highlights in the  
background. Probably a bad choice on my part. On the other hand, the  
K10D has proved to be an excellent choice.
Paul
On Nov 14, 2007, at 11:01 PM, Tom C wrote:

>
>
> Some of the noise appears to look like widely spaced bands, but in  
> other places it looks more like blotching. Again, this was shot at  
> ISO 500 and midrange brightness was increased a moderate amount.  
> Somewhat less than a stop I'd say. (I just did this last night, so  
> I remember. By tomorrow, I'll forget:-). Perhaps it has something  
> to do with light angles. It's a mix of direct flash and flash off  
> the ceiling. Don't know. But my client will never notice, and I'm  
> not going to point it out:-).
> Paul
>
> ----------------------------
>
> At the risk of sounding crass...
>
> Paul, a fat lady in a bowling alley may never notice. The point is  
> not whether a client will notice or not. The point is that were the  
> vertical banding to present itself in an image that was a wonderful  
> one, one that took a lot of effort, time, or expense to make... or  
> one that was a rare image and could not be easily reproduced... or  
> one that was going to be printed at a large size and for sale...  
> the VPN will have effectively ruined the image.
>
> "Aren't your pictures worth a Pentax?"
>
> A camera that stands to ruin your images for you effectively undoes  
> anything else good, first class glass, antishake... you name it. A  
> ruined or compromised image is a ruined or compromised image.
>
> Tom C.
>
>
>
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