I've tried the breast down method. It works well, but turning over a big bird is a hassle. The high temp method is at 425 degrees for around two hours for a 14 pound bird. But I check it with a temperature probe and roast to 165 degrees. The breasts are as moist as with the breast down method. Gourmet mag did a test of about six methods a couple of years ago. They were absolutely certain that the high temp method would yield awful, dry meat. But it turned out to be the best. I put fruit or veggies in the cavity, but just a couple for a loose fit. This year I used two lemon halves, a few sprigs of rosemary and about half an onion. I coated it inside and out with olive oil, then applied a fennel and peppercorn rub to the outside. That probably doesn't affect the meat much, but it does great things for the pan drippings, from which I make gravy. I also make stock from the gizzards and neck. Combined with the pan drippings and just a bit of heavy cream, it makes a great gravy. Paul -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > A no-brainer, but it makes an impressive mess. > > How high a temp do you use, and for how long? > > My favorite turkey-roasting trick is to roast it > breast down for the first 3/4 of the roasting time, > then flip it over to finish. It makes the white meat > much juicier. > > Rick > (family cook) > > --- Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Happy Thanksgiving to all who celebrate the day. > > > > I'm getting ready to roast my 35th turkey. All my > > kids are here, as > > are my mother and granddaughter (both of whom reside > > in my abode). > > Made the stuffing yesterday: bread cubes, sausage, > > white wine, > > apples, cranberries, mushrooms and lots of butter. > > I'll do the turkey > > at very high temperature for a short amount of time. > > Learned that > > technique a couple of years ago from an article in > > Gourmet magazine. > > It's fabulous. My wife does the pumpkin pies, sweet > > potatoes and all > > the rest. It's a no brainer. Enjoy. > > Paul > > On Nov 22, 2007, at 11:59 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: > > > > > Cory, > > > > > > The Thanksgiving holiday can be stressful but you > > will outgrow the > > > problems. > > > We've hosted it for over 25 years. > > > Our siblings and their children still join us. > > > Our own kids return home for the traditional > > turkey dinner. > > > But they all manage themselves, no more hassles > > getting them ready. > > > > > > We'll miss our parents and their generation, but > > they left lasting > > > memories. > > > These are good days to create some memories for > > the future. > > > Get out your cameras, and be kind hearted. > > > You can change your friends, but not your > > relatives... > > > > > > A happy holiday to all (here and abroad), Bob S. > > > > > > > > > On Nov 22, 2007 8:35 AM, cbwaters > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> It's Thanksgiving day here in America. > > >> Yesterday was the busiest travel day of the year > > (or Sunday will > > >> be... it's > > >> neck and neck). All the airports and highways > > are usually clogged > > >> to the > > >> breaking point or beyond. Family members across > > our nation were > > >> stressed to > > >> the max trying to get their herds and shit > > together to make the > > >> trip to > > >> Grandma's or Aunt's house to have a family > > gathering that can be > > >> one of the > > >> best days of the year. > > >> > > >> Accidents happen. Weather happens. Cars break > > down. People get > > >> drunk. > > >> Inter-family fights that can cause rifts that > > last years or for > > >> ever...happen. People who have nobody might eat > > TV dinners > > >> alone. We > > >> Americans have hundreds of thousands or troops > > overseas. They and > > >> their > > >> loved ones are sad today and probably more than a > > little afraid. > > >> > > >> Holidays cover the whole spectrum. > > >> > > >> But there's turkey, stuffing , green bean > > casserole, cranberries > > >> and of > > >> course the NFL. So it's not all bad right? > > >> > > >> I had the turkey feast with my family last night. > > I'm working > > >> tonight > > >> because the Falcons (Atlanta's pro football team) > > have a game. > > >> It's the > > >> first time in my 35 years that I've not had > > turkey, family and > > >> football all > > >> together on this day. It's a little weird. But > > I cant *really* > > >> complain. > > >> I have a job that pays alright, a home that's > > warm or cool as the > > >> weather > > >> demands, more turkey than I can eat (where are > > those leftovers > > >> anyway?), and > > >> lots of family who love me. > > >> > > >> It's tradition on Thanksgiving to take stock of > > the things you're > > >> thankful > > >> for. > > >> > > >> I'm thankful for you lot. Admittedly, you're not > > in the top tier > > >> on my list > > >> <evil grin> Family and love take that spot > > pretty well. But my > > >> friends on > > >> this list and others on the internet are a nice > > piece of life. > > >> > > >> So thanks guys and gals for being there, being > > funny, being > > >> thoughtful (yes, > > >> really), and being friendly (mostly). > > >> > > >> Cheers. > > >> > > >> Cory Waters > > >> > > >> /moody > > >> /introspective > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > >> [email protected] > > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the > > link directly above > > >> and follow the directions. > > >> > > > > > > -- > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > [email protected] > > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the > > link directly above > > > and follow the directions. > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > [email protected] > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > > directly above and follow the directions. > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________ > ____ > Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. > Make Yahoo! your homepage. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions.
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