Timber,

IIRC, the K10D and its Samsung sibling are very
similar but run different firmware.  The same is
likely to be true of the K20D and GX-20.

Rick

--- Timber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yup. So far I know that's one of the reasons why the
> Pentax cameras come 
> out under the name of Samsung. Many koreans don't
> buy japanese products. 
> I was talking with a korean girl once and she told
> me that in Korea 
> Samsung is quite unbeatable in photography market.
> 
> I was already about asking a question earlier. I
> know this is a Pentax 
> Discuss Mail List, but what about the Samsung users?
> Since I am thinking 
> about buying a Samsung GX-20 instead of the Pentax
> K20D because the 
> hungarian service for the Pentax (and Tamron, Canon,
> Sigma) is terrible. 
> I can't understand how a company like Pentax could
> make contract with 
> them. Here's a little story: I had a little incident
> with my Pentax K10D 
> last 3rd of october, I have a Miranda made 2x and I
> had a probably 
> faulty Tamron Adaptall adaptor (later I found out it
> was Ricoh not PK), 
> which worked quite well with the camera but with the
> 2x it made a little 
> fault in my 1 month old K10D, the aperture moving
> arm (or what's the 
> name) is stopped at the top and won't goes back. I
> brought my camera to 
> the service with all the papers the next day (4th of
> October). About 2 
> weeks later I called them to ask about the camera.
> They told me it can't 
> be made under the guarantee so they will send me a
> letter with the 
> costs. 2 weeks later I called them again because I
> had no words from 
> them. They told me the same like 2 weeks earlier. So
> I went to their 
> shop and signed the no-guarantee paper. The costs
> was 40'000 HUF (that's 
> ~220$). Again no words from them for 2 weeks so time
> to call... They 
> told me that they are going to send the camera to
> Germany because they 
> can't fix it there. 2 more weeks and when I called
> them they told me the 
> price went up to 71'000 HUF (~390$). Almost the half
> of the camera with 
> kit lens... I told them that it's way too much and I
> can't understand 
> how did the price going up almost twice to what it
> was. The girl on the 
> phone told me she will ask her boss. Her boss called
> me and explained 
> that they have to replace the whole bayonett and
> shutter (so like almost 
> all the mechanics... LOL?) and the picture
> processing panel. This was 
> the point when the whole thing became interesting to
> me so I started to 
> argue with the guy and in the end he said that the
> panel may not needed 
> to be replaced :D He promised me to call me back in
> 10 minutes because 
> he is busy at the moment and can't write down my
> email adress where he 
> could send the contract. 30 minutes later I sent my
> email adress to him 
> in SMS. Withing 1 minute he called me and was very
> rude with me and was 
> angry because I can't wait till he calls me and why
> do I rush him 
> because he's a busy man etc. So we argued a little
> more :D Anyway at the 
> middle/end of december I received a letter from them
> what I've to send 
> back signed so they will repair my K10D (what took 1
> month to them to 
> send this letter... I don't know). At the begining
> of January I called 
> them and cancelled the repair (I found an other
> repair shop who could 
> help me) and they promised to give my K10D back
> ASAP. 4 weeks later I 
> was finally able to get my unrepaired K10D... So it
> took almost 4 months 
> and my camera is still damaged (I mean my other K10D
> :P) and I highly 
> doubt that it was sent to Germany any time... I
> really believe they just 
> wanted to cheat and get the money from me for
> something that would be 
> still under the guarantee. Tomorrow I will take it
> to an other repair 
> shop and wonder what will be their price... And the
> joke in all they are 
> the only service in Hungary who will repair Pentax
> stuff under guarantee...
> 
> Sorry for this little off-topic rant, but as you see
> I am thinking 5x to 
> buy any Pentax, Tamron, Sigma or Canon product
> because of this. Samsung 
> has their own service here and not just a
> contractor, so even if I love 
> Pentax (and I really do :D) I am thinking about to
> get a Samsung because 
> of this and only this. This is great way how a
> company can loose a 
> fan... a customer.
> 
> .timber
> 
> keith_w wrote:
> > That site is Korean. Is Samsung a Korean company?
> >   
> > keith
> >
> >   
> 
> 
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