It's not in my spell checker and the suggestion was well, not appropriate...

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> Hey, without defraction how would we know where to cut de pie?
>
> I think you meant diffraction:-)
>
> Paul
> (being a wise-ass)
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   
>> frank theriault wrote:
>>     
>>> Well, that clarifies things...
>>>
>>> ;-)
>>>       
>> Heck, I didn't even get into defraction...
>> (Jo, don't worry about it, nothing you need to care about right now or 
>> probably ever).
>>
>> frank theriault wrote:
>>     
>>> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:23 AM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>>>       
>> wrote:
>>     
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> First you need is a quick course on exposure values and how they effect
>>>> the way your camera captures images.  There used to be two parameters
>>>> that could be readily controlled, aperture and shutter speed, which were
>>>> adjusted to give the proper exposure.  In addition higher shutter speed
>>>> can "freeze" action, aperture controls the depth of apparent focus (the
>>>> smaller the aperture, though confusingly enough the larger the aperture
>>>> number, the more DOF is available), the combination of the two controls
>>>> the amount of light hitting the sensor which will effect the quality of
>>>> your results.  In addition today you also have control over the
>>>> effective ISO of your sensor, higher ISOs will allow faster shutter
>>>> speeds to stop more action and more Depth of Field, but above a certain
>>>> ISO image quality begins to be degraded by digital noise.  Everything is
>>>> a compromise, good choices of the three exposure parameters will give
>>>> good results but remember you'll have to choose what's most important.
>>>> Then there's Flash.  Flash can supplement the available light or replace
>>>> it, but the same parameters used in natural light still control the look
>>>> and quality of the photograph.
>>>>
>>>> You need to realize that auto focus can be your enemy, I find that in
>>>> automatic modes it always picks a part of a scene to focus on other than
>>>> the one I wanted, it's especially problematic when you need it most,
>>>> (usually in marginal lighting situations).  Learn when you can trust
>>>> your auto focus and when you need to take a hand.  You have chosen a
>>>> particularly difficult subject, living creatures with minds of their
>>>> own, i.e. puppies, you know their habits and behaviors, your camera
>>>> doesn't you have to pick the point of focus to anticipate what you
>>>> expect them to be doing next,  the camera can't, it generally doesn't
>>>> know what you're interested in.  You have to be aware of how much DOF
>>>> the lens is delivering as well as where the actual point of focus is.
>>>> Sometimes you can't get everything in acceptable focus that you want, so
>>>> you have to choose, once again a compromise.
>>>>
>>>> The best way to improve is learn the basics, exposure, and the effects
>>>> aperture and shutter speed will have on apparent sharpness and
>>>> movement.  Practice focusing manually anticipating the movement of your
>>>> subject, not an easy thing, I know but there's no way around it.  Shoot
>>>> lots of pictures and show them to people who know a bit about
>>>> photography tell them what you were trying to accomplish and what your
>>>> camera settings were.  PESOs here can be good for that.  You'll get lots
>>>> of stupid comments, (not the least of all from me), but you'll also get
>>>> some good advice.  The almost got what I wanted photos are often the
>>>> best to show.
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> Well, that clarifies things...
>>>
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> Well, seriously, everything Peter said is true.  You have to know
>>> exposure, and light, and how those things interact.  What shutter
>>> speed and aperture (and now ISO - with film, ISO was the "film speed"
>>> and couldn't be changed except by changing the roll of film) do to the
>>> incoming light affect the image in major ways:  What's light and dark
>>> on the image of course, but also what's sharp or blurry.
>>>
>>> Then there's focus...
>>>
>>> But here's the thing.  Reading about it is really difficult (at least
>>> for me).  It's so much easier to learn by doing.  You have one huge
>>> advantage with your digital camera, which is that you can shoot
>>> (virtually) for free.  So shoot away, have fun, don't worry about the
>>> results.
>>>
>>> But if things don't turn out as you expect, find out why.  Check in
>>> your EXIF data to see what your shutter speed, aperture and ISO
>>> ratings were, see if you can figure out how those things affected your
>>> result.  From there, you may want to control one or more of these
>>> things to try to change future results.  Was the dog blurry because he
>>> moved?  Maybe you need to use a faster shutter speed.  Was only part
>>> of the dog in focus, but not all of it?  Maybe you need a narrower
>>> aperture.  Not enough room to change either of these values?  Maybe
>>> you need an higher ISO.
>>>
>>> As Peter said, ask questions.  Post photos and ask.  Most of us don't bite.
>>>
>>> One thing that Peter didn't get on to that I think affects things more
>>> than the camera and its settings is ~composition~.  You can have all
>>> the settings on your camera perfect, the autofocus (or you manual
>>> focus) can be spot-on, but if what's in the photo is banal and boring,
>>> you might as well have bought a disposable camera.  OTOH, there are
>>> folks that get amazing images from the most rudimentary of plastic
>>> cameras such as Holgas and the like, because of their composition.
>>>
>>> Look at good photographs (including many you'll see posted on this
>>> list).  Look at photography books.  Go to websites such as this:
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> http://www.magnumphotos.com/Archive/C.aspx?VP=XSpecific_MAG.AgencyHome_VPage&pid
>> =2K7O3R1VX08V
>>     
>>> Look at the photos, see what works and maybe even why they work.  I'm
>>> not talking technically, but notice where things are in the frame and
>>> see what you like and what you don't.  Note how some photos are not
>>> sharp, not well-exposed, but still work!
>>>
>>> Get inspired.
>>>
>>> Then shoot some more.
>>>
>>> Most of all have fun!  You're not a pro.  Most of us on this list
>>> aren't pros.  If you're not having fun, why else would you be taking
>>> pictures?
>>>
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> frank
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
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