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On 6/4/08, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's not in my spell checker and the suggestion was well, not appropriate...
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hey, without defraction how would we know where to cut de pie?
> >
> > I think you meant diffraction:-)
> >
> > Paul
> > (being a wise-ass)
> >  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >> frank theriault wrote:
> >>
> >>> Well, that clarifies things...
> >>>
> >>> ;-)
> >>>
> >> Heck, I didn't even get into defraction...
> >> (Jo, don't worry about it, nothing you need to care about right now or
> >> probably ever).
> >>
> >> frank theriault wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:23 AM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> First you need is a quick course on exposure values and how they effect
> >>>> the way your camera captures images.  There used to be two parameters
> >>>> that could be readily controlled, aperture and shutter speed, which were
> >>>> adjusted to give the proper exposure.  In addition higher shutter speed
> >>>> can "freeze" action, aperture controls the depth of apparent focus (the
> >>>> smaller the aperture, though confusingly enough the larger the aperture
> >>>> number, the more DOF is available), the combination of the two controls
> >>>> the amount of light hitting the sensor which will effect the quality of
> >>>> your results.  In addition today you also have control over the
> >>>> effective ISO of your sensor, higher ISOs will allow faster shutter
> >>>> speeds to stop more action and more Depth of Field, but above a certain
> >>>> ISO image quality begins to be degraded by digital noise.  Everything is
> >>>> a compromise, good choices of the three exposure parameters will give
> >>>> good results but remember you'll have to choose what's most important.
> >>>> Then there's Flash.  Flash can supplement the available light or replace
> >>>> it, but the same parameters used in natural light still control the look
> >>>> and quality of the photograph.
> >>>>
> >>>> You need to realize that auto focus can be your enemy, I find that in
> >>>> automatic modes it always picks a part of a scene to focus on other than
> >>>> the one I wanted, it's especially problematic when you need it most,
> >>>> (usually in marginal lighting situations).  Learn when you can trust
> >>>> your auto focus and when you need to take a hand.  You have chosen a
> >>>> particularly difficult subject, living creatures with minds of their
> >>>> own, i.e. puppies, you know their habits and behaviors, your camera
> >>>> doesn't you have to pick the point of focus to anticipate what you
> >>>> expect them to be doing next,  the camera can't, it generally doesn't
> >>>> know what you're interested in.  You have to be aware of how much DOF
> >>>> the lens is delivering as well as where the actual point of focus is.
> >>>> Sometimes you can't get everything in acceptable focus that you want, so
> >>>> you have to choose, once again a compromise.
> >>>>
> >>>> The best way to improve is learn the basics, exposure, and the effects
> >>>> aperture and shutter speed will have on apparent sharpness and
> >>>> movement.  Practice focusing manually anticipating the movement of your
> >>>> subject, not an easy thing, I know but there's no way around it.  Shoot
> >>>> lots of pictures and show them to people who know a bit about
> >>>> photography tell them what you were trying to accomplish and what your
> >>>> camera settings were.  PESOs here can be good for that.  You'll get lots
> >>>> of stupid comments, (not the least of all from me), but you'll also get
> >>>> some good advice.  The almost got what I wanted photos are often the
> >>>> best to show.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> Well, that clarifies things...
> >>>
> >>> ;-)
> >>>
> >>> Well, seriously, everything Peter said is true.  You have to know
> >>> exposure, and light, and how those things interact.  What shutter
> >>> speed and aperture (and now ISO - with film, ISO was the "film speed"
> >>> and couldn't be changed except by changing the roll of film) do to the
> >>> incoming light affect the image in major ways:  What's light and dark
> >>> on the image of course, but also what's sharp or blurry.
> >>>
> >>> Then there's focus...
> >>>
> >>> But here's the thing.  Reading about it is really difficult (at least
> >>> for me).  It's so much easier to learn by doing.  You have one huge
> >>> advantage with your digital camera, which is that you can shoot
> >>> (virtually) for free.  So shoot away, have fun, don't worry about the
> >>> results.
> >>>
> >>> But if things don't turn out as you expect, find out why.  Check in
> >>> your EXIF data to see what your shutter speed, aperture and ISO
> >>> ratings were, see if you can figure out how those things affected your
> >>> result.  From there, you may want to control one or more of these
> >>> things to try to change future results.  Was the dog blurry because he
> >>> moved?  Maybe you need to use a faster shutter speed.  Was only part
> >>> of the dog in focus, but not all of it?  Maybe you need a narrower
> >>> aperture.  Not enough room to change either of these values?  Maybe
> >>> you need an higher ISO.
> >>>
> >>> As Peter said, ask questions.  Post photos and ask.  Most of us don't 
> >>> bite.
> >>>
> >>> One thing that Peter didn't get on to that I think affects things more
> >>> than the camera and its settings is ~composition~.  You can have all
> >>> the settings on your camera perfect, the autofocus (or you manual
> >>> focus) can be spot-on, but if what's in the photo is banal and boring,
> >>> you might as well have bought a disposable camera.  OTOH, there are
> >>> folks that get amazing images from the most rudimentary of plastic
> >>> cameras such as Holgas and the like, because of their composition.
> >>>
> >>> Look at good photographs (including many you'll see posted on this
> >>> list).  Look at photography books.  Go to websites such as this:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> http://www.magnumphotos.com/Archive/C.aspx?VP=XSpecific_MAG.AgencyHome_VPage&pid
> >> =2K7O3R1VX08V
> >>
> >>> Look at the photos, see what works and maybe even why they work.  I'm
> >>> not talking technically, but notice where things are in the frame and
> >>> see what you like and what you don't.  Note how some photos are not
> >>> sharp, not well-exposed, but still work!
> >>>
> >>> Get inspired.
> >>>
> >>> Then shoot some more.
> >>>
> >>> Most of all have fun!  You're not a pro.  Most of us on this list
> >>> aren't pros.  If you're not having fun, why else would you be taking
> >>> pictures?
> >>>
> >>> ;-)
> >>>
> >>> cheers,
> >>> frank
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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