No, it's not the white point setting. And I do calibrate my monitor often. Every monitor/printer is different. A generic printer profile created on another system won't necessarily translate to another system. That's why it's best to create your own profiles, using your own printer and and it's unique color gamut. This way, you're calibrating the profile to YOUR printer and ITS ink set which may be very different from the values used in creating the generic profile.
Also, you'll never get that close to an exact match between a monitor and a printed image since the two are only fascimiles of the other. An image on a monitor is created with millions of colors. On my Epson 4800, it's created with 8 colors. The ICC profile is only there to best approximate the translation into shades of ink drops. In my experience, it's best to use a profile created both on the paper I want to profile which is also printed from the printer that is used to create the final image. Variations can actually occur just by scanning the color swatches with or without an add'l blank piece of paper placed underneath the sampling color target. Variations also occur when the image isn't fully dry. The other nice thing about custom profiles is that the software allows you to tweak already existing profiles to change individual color values and other settings. Then, you can save these settings as a totally new profile for specific prints or a series of prints. -Brendan --- PN Stenquist <[email protected]> wrote: > That could well be a function of the white point > setting on your > monitor or another calibration variable. My iMac 24 > monitor is set to > native white point, and it's calibrated every couple > of weeks. The > color temp that my Epson R2400 delivers with the > Epson ICC profiles is > identical to what I see on my monitor. > Paul > On Dec 21, 2008, at 1:58 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote: > > > I've found my Epson factory ICC's to be a tad > warm. > > They weren't "bad" per se, just not nearly as good > to > > my eye as the custom built ones. > > > > -Brendan > > --- PN Stenquist <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> I find that Epson's ICC profiles are superb. My > >> prints are an exact > >> match of my monitor. > >> Paul > >> On Dec 21, 2008, at 1:18 PM, Brendan MacRae > wrote: > >> > >>> Have you tried printing from "Print with > Preview" > >> in > >>> Photoshop? I find that it works better with > >> profiles > >>> than other programs. Also, make sure to turn > color > >>> controls OFF (under "Color Handling:" slect "No > >> color > >>> management"), do that AGAIN under the print > dialog > >>> boxes when selecting paper size, oreintation, > etc. > >>> > >>> The only other suggestion I have is not to use > >> generic > >>> paper profiles, even one supplied by paper > >>> manufacturers. In my experience, they're never > as > >> good > >>> a creating your own. > >>> > >>> ColorVision makes a spectrocolorimeter to read > >> color > >>> swatches printed on the paper you're creating > the > >>> profile for. It works works much better than any > >>> manufacturer files I've tried. However, there > are > >>> tricks to doing this correctly, as well. It took > >> many, > >>> many emails back and forth to colorVision to > >> finally > >>> establish a working, consistant procedure (at > >> least > >>> for some of the Epson papers I use). > >>> > >>> -B > >>> --- Christine Aguila <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi Everyone: > >>>> > >>>> Well, I'm stumped: > >>>> > >>>> I have correctly downloaded and installed some > >> ICC > >>>> paper profiles from > >>>> Brilliant Museum (matte satin white) & MOAB > >> (white > >>>> satin). I finally > >>>> learned where to save to & how to install for > PC. > >>>> These two profiles show > >>>> up in Lightroom. I also have chosen "turn off > >> color > >>>> adjustment" in the > >>>> printer dialog box as all the directions say to > >> do, > >>>> so there is no clash > >>>> between printer & ICC profile. I've done some > >> test > >>>> prints, and the color is > >>>> hideous--reddish & black--and dark > >>>> > >>>> So I tried my usual settings with these two > >> papers > >>>> that I've never printed > >>>> with before--B. Museum & MOAB: I chose Stylus > >> Epson > >>>> 2880, Perceptual, Adobe > >>>> RGB in the printer dialogue box and the proper > >> media > >>>> type (as I use when > >>>> printing on Epson papers), and the prints come > >> out > >>>> normal and a virtual > >>>> likeness to the monitor. > >>>> > >>>> I must be doing something wrong--I know the > >> general > >>>> view is that ICC > >>>> profiles are supposed to give better print > >>>> quality--but I just can't figure > >>>> out what I'm doing wrong. > >>>> > >>>> Any suggestions? > >>>> Cheers, Christine > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the > >> link > >>>> directly above and follow the directions. > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>> [email protected] > >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the > >> link directly above > >>> and follow the directions. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> [email protected] > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the > link > >> directly above and follow the directions. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > [email protected] > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the > link directly above > > and follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
