That makes sense. Fortunately, the Epson profiles seem to be right in
synch with my system. But I'll keep this in mind in case I want to use
other papers. I use to use Hannemuhle William Turner Rag quite a bit,
but the available profiles are iffy. But I"m equally happy with Epson
Velvet Fine Art, which dials in precisely. And it doesn't chip as
easily as the Hannemuhle sheet.
Paul
On Dec 21, 2008, at 3:03 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote:
No, it's not the white point setting. And I do
calibrate my monitor often.
Every monitor/printer is different. A generic printer
profile created on another system won't necessarily
translate to another system. That's why it's best to
create your own profiles, using your own printer and
and it's unique color gamut. This way, you're
calibrating the profile to YOUR printer and ITS ink
set which may be very different from the values used
in creating the generic profile.
Also, you'll never get that close to an exact match
between a monitor and a printed image since the two
are only fascimiles of the other. An image on a
monitor is created with millions of colors. On my
Epson 4800, it's created with 8 colors. The ICC
profile is only there to best approximate the
translation into shades of ink drops. In my
experience, it's best to use a profile created both on
the paper I want to profile which is also printed from
the printer that is used to create the final image.
Variations can actually occur just by scanning the
color swatches with or without an add'l blank piece of
paper placed underneath the sampling color target.
Variations also occur when the image isn't fully dry.
The other nice thing about custom profiles is that the
software allows you to tweak already existing profiles
to change individual color values and other settings.
Then, you can save these settings as a totally new
profile for specific prints or a series of prints.
-Brendan
--- PN Stenquist <[email protected]> wrote:
That could well be a function of the white point
setting on your
monitor or another calibration variable. My iMac 24
monitor is set to
native white point, and it's calibrated every couple
of weeks. The
color temp that my Epson R2400 delivers with the
Epson ICC profiles is
identical to what I see on my monitor.
Paul
On Dec 21, 2008, at 1:58 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote:
I've found my Epson factory ICC's to be a tad
warm.
They weren't "bad" per se, just not nearly as good
to
my eye as the custom built ones.
-Brendan
--- PN Stenquist <[email protected]> wrote:
I find that Epson's ICC profiles are superb. My
prints are an exact
match of my monitor.
Paul
On Dec 21, 2008, at 1:18 PM, Brendan MacRae
wrote:
Have you tried printing from "Print with
Preview"
in
Photoshop? I find that it works better with
profiles
than other programs. Also, make sure to turn
color
controls OFF (under "Color Handling:" slect "No
color
management"), do that AGAIN under the print
dialog
boxes when selecting paper size, oreintation,
etc.
The only other suggestion I have is not to use
generic
paper profiles, even one supplied by paper
manufacturers. In my experience, they're never
as
good
a creating your own.
ColorVision makes a spectrocolorimeter to read
color
swatches printed on the paper you're creating
the
profile for. It works works much better than any
manufacturer files I've tried. However, there
are
tricks to doing this correctly, as well. It took
many,
many emails back and forth to colorVision to
finally
establish a working, consistant procedure (at
least
for some of the Epson papers I use).
-B
--- Christine Aguila <[email protected]>
wrote:
Hi Everyone:
Well, I'm stumped:
I have correctly downloaded and installed some
ICC
paper profiles from
Brilliant Museum (matte satin white) & MOAB
(white
satin). I finally
learned where to save to & how to install for
PC.
These two profiles show
up in Lightroom. I also have chosen "turn off
color
adjustment" in the
printer dialog box as all the directions say to
do,
so there is no clash
between printer & ICC profile. I've done some
test
prints, and the color is
hideous--reddish & black--and dark
So I tried my usual settings with these two
papers
that I've never printed
with before--B. Museum & MOAB: I chose Stylus
Epson
2880, Perceptual, Adobe
RGB in the printer dialogue box and the proper
media
type (as I use when
printing on Epson papers), and the prints come
out
normal and a virtual
likeness to the monitor.
I must be doing something wrong--I know the
general
view is that ICC
profiles are supposed to give better print
quality--but I just can't figure
out what I'm doing wrong.
Any suggestions?
Cheers, Christine
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