Jostein, Our garbage dumps will be a treasure trove for future records of our existance. Regards, Bob S.
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 4:03 AM, AlunFoto <[email protected]> wrote: > While human bodies stand little chance of fossilising, many of our > cultural artefacts do. Structures such as pyramids, concrete, cast > iron, shipwrecks in mud, etc, etc. We started out pondering whether a > civilisation could have existed before the emergence of humans. I > would argue that any such civilisation would have been discovered by > fossilised remains of their artefacts. It is of course possible to > imagine an intelligent species not building anything to support their > existence, but that defies the definition of civilisation, doesn't it. > > On an eerie sidenote, I suspect human civilisation's largest > contribution to a future fossil record will be fossilised garbage... > :-( > > Jostein > > 2009/1/19 Luiz Felipe <[email protected]>: >> Peter, I saw "Stan" (a T-Rex fossil) at Disney's Animal Kingdom and the >> folks at the exibition told me how few specimens existed. It's a very >> difficult puzzle indeed. >> >> There are lots of unexplained artifacts from pre-historic ages that suggest >> mankind did have a former civilization that vanished in some global >> catastrophe, leaving scattered groups with tales of destruction by flood and >> fire. We usually regard our achievements as important, but if mankind >> disappeared the next tenants would have little to remember us. >> >> LF >> >> Peter Alling escreveu: >>> >>> On a serious note, most people don't realize how little of the fossil >>> record actually exists. I think the entire T-Rex species is known from >>> fewer than 100 individuals with only a half a dozen considered "nearly >>> complete", representing several hundred thousand years of the species' >>> existence. The amount of time that hominids an entire group of mammalian >>> species have been on earth is less time than the existence of that one >>> species of dinosaur was. If the same amount of time elapsed between the >>> rise of a new intelligent creature and our demise, as between us and the >>> dinosaurs, I doubt enough would exist of our works to show that we were tool >>> users. In fact though there are an awful lot of us, I doubt there would be >>> many surviving fossils, as most of us live in areas not conducive to fossil >>> formation. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> >>>> >>>> From: AlunFoto <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Jan 17, 2009 3:45 PM >>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: PESO - attempt at B/W conversion >>>> >>>> 2009/1/17 Peter Alling <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> If birds are related to dinosaurs maybe they did. >>>>> Not much would be left of our civilization after a few million years. >>>>> >>>> >>>> True enough. But since there are fossilised remains of early hominids >>>> like Lucy, then one has to wonder how a previous civilisation of >>>> another species could have come and gone without as much as a trace in >>>> the fossil record. >>>> >>>> Unless, of course, the fossil record is a hoax planted by the previous >>>> civilisation. >>>> >>>> No, wait! That doesn't hold with the fact that Noah's flood caused all >>>> the fossils. >>>> >>>> <g, d & r> >>>> Jostein >>>> >>>> -- >>>> http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ >>>> http://alunfoto.blogspot.com >>>> >>>> -- >>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>> follow the directions. >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Luiz Felipe >> luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br >> http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > > > -- > http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ > http://alunfoto.blogspot.com > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

