Chicago drivers do suck the big wazoo--what really irks me is that they don't use their turn signals--drives me nuts--I always use my turn signal. 100 years ago I dated a guy from New York, who came to hate Chicago drivers because of no turn signal use. He always said New Yorkers will cut you off, but they let you know they are going to cut you off by using their turn signals. Cheers, Christine




----- Original Message ----- From: "paul stenquist" <[email protected]>
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Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: New Jersey Drivers (Was nutty Norwegians)


That would be true if everyone drove at the same pace. But with two lanes, some drive slow while others drive faster. So when two lanes are fully utilized until the merge point, those who wish to move quicker can take advantage of a faster lane for a longer time. It works. And when the merge occurs at one point rather than randomly, it can be done more efficiently. That, of course, is assuming good drivers. My many years of driving in metro Chicago convince me that it will be a mess there no matter when, where or how it happens.
Paul
On May 7, 2009, at 6:08 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Bob W,
Gotta do the math.
The service rate is fixed.  The length of the queue, be it one or two
lanes wide depends completely on the arrival rate.  Stack 'em in one
lane, two lanes, or three lanes it doesn't matter.  Average wait time
will be the same.
The issue is fairness as some asses try to cut into the queue and get
thru faster.
For every minute they gain on the average, the rest of the group
suffers an additional minute wait.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Bob W <[email protected]> wrote:
Sure, but the earlier they merge, the longer the pipe (ie longer service
time), which leads to longer queues.


Bob,
That's not really true.
Make the pipe as big as you want (as many lanes) before the
constriction (to one lane).
Traffic flow will not improve.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 2:29 AM, Bob W <[email protected]> wrote:
If everyone merges early they still need to know the rule
to avoid huge jams
in one or both lanes, but the unused lane is no longer
serving traffic, so
the total speed of the traffic is much slower.

Bob


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