While I dont doubt you have enjoyed and used your 31,43, and 77 mm
lenses more, but
those are not valid arguments against the FA80-200/2.8 or the 70-210 or
60-250mm
lenses, those are primes not zooms and with the exception of the 77mm
lens are not
even close to being same focal range as the 60-250 lens being
considered.

FWIW, there have been two recent clean used fa80-200/2.8 sales on ebay
in the $1400-1600
range, not that far off the $1350 price(new) of the 60-250/4 and the
focal range is
somewhat similar. 

My tamron sp 80-200/2.8 is 1400g and not really that bad weight wise.
the pentax FA 80-200/2.8 is 1500g
which to me would not be that bad either for a lens of that speed and
range. If size and weight
is a primary concern, the A70-210/4 is only 2/3 the weight of the
DA60-250 around 680g for the A70-210/4
vs ~1000g for the DA/60-250/4.

For anyone on tight budget, the tamron sp 80-200/2.8 is a great value. I
got mine
for under $300 a few years ago. I think they are still fairly
inexpensive. the performance
is really outstanding and you can get a "A" version of the adaptall2
mount too.

JC O'Connell (mailto:[email protected])
"Honesty is the first chapter in the book of wisdom" - Thomas Jefferson


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Mark Erickson
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 4:52 PM
To: PDML
Subject: FA* and DA* lenses (was Re: A70-210/4 assessment- If AF
matters,how about the SMC FA80-200/2.8)


JC OConnell wrote:
>
>http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=20382864
>
>Maybe thats a better lens for possibly the same or less money? I dont 
>know but it would be worth investigating, no?

I had one--bought it from a member of this list (or its predecessor) for
~$1100 around 2000.  Nice glass, but really big and really heavy.  I
sold it for $2000 on eBay in 2006 and bought my 31, 43, and 77 limited
lenses with the $$$.  I use them far more than I ever used my FA* 80-200
F2.8.

I also had an FA* 28-70 F2.8 lens.  It worked ok, but didn't seem all
that durably built.  Some other folks on this list had terrible troubles
with theirs.  I sold it for what I paid for it, so no net loss there.

What keeps me from buying the 60-250 (besides the $$$) at this point is
my lack of trust in the Pentax DA* lenses.  I have no interest
whatsoever in dropping more than $1000 for something that may or may not
have a fatal design/manufacturing flaw.  I have a 16-50.  It went back
to Pentax USA twice because of quality control problems.  The second
time they replaced it with a different copy.  It seems ok, but I've lost
some confidence.  

I decided to stay away from the 50-135 due to the rash of SDM failure
reports at a couple of different forums.   Pentax is going to have to
convince me that they can reliably manufacture durable lenses before I
buy another one.  Maybe a year from now, if the 60-250's out "in the
wild" are still working, I'll consider one.

--Mark  


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