When I have to do a custom white balance, which of course is only when shooting jpegs, I just use the grey card or a white card for that matter. If I don't like the results, I use the -3 +3 adjustments. It doesn't really mater what the Kelvin temp might be if the shots look good. The only time I shoot jpegs is for virtual tours. But many of these involve complex lighting: windows, tungsten, sometimes even some fluorescent. But the data is irrelevant. Only the results matter.
Paul
On May 9, 2009, at 8:13 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:

On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 10:14:51AM -0400, Doug Brewer wrote:
G-M means "Green - Magenta". The other one is "Blue - Amber". When you set manual white balance, you choose a Kelvin value, and then can set both of these two axes between -3 and +3. (The same adjustment grid that you use to
tweak the pre-set white balance.) The question is: -3 to +3 *what*?
now, see, I had considered that this might have been the case, then tried
to over-complicate it.

:)

I guess the way to figure "-3 to +3 what?" would be to establish the zero point (what is the Kelvin value of zero in this instance?) then look to see what the Kelvin values are at +1, -1, etc, and the interval would establish
what they (Pentax) consider the units.
Make sense?

Yeah, it makes sense, but for two things. First, the kelvin value displayed doesn't actually change -- the G-M/B-A grid is over to the right of that value and appears completely independent. And that's the second thing: the Kelvin scale measures along a blue-red axis. The green-magenta axis isn't related to that, so it makes sense that the Kelvin values aren't changed by it. But the blue-amber axis, by virtue of including blue, seems like it must
have a complicated relationship with the Kelvin number.

And I guess that's the third thing: it's hard to measure the actual impact
of changes here.

I suppose the test is to shoot a gray card with the custom white balance set to the card itself, and then see what divergence I get by changing the
scale on *that* screen around.

But even then, that's only part of the puzzle, and it seems like it should be the *harder* part, when I haven't even solved the easier part. Namely, once one has set the white balance with the gray card, there's no way to get
a display of what Kelvin value that represents -- let alone the other
offsets.

I could buy an expensive color meter, of course, but that seems really weird to have to do when the camera clearly has one _built in_. Why can't it just
display its readings?

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