> 
> Are you still bitching about rail travel in the UK, Bob?
> 
> ;-)
>

that's not a bitch about rail travel, it's a bitch about bad software
design.

I don't really bitch much about UK rail travel. It's generally pretty good.
Over-priced, but still better than flying, mostly.

Bob

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Scott Loveless
> Sent: 24 May 2009 15:36
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: OT - ranting about Amtrak
> 
> On 5/24/09, P. J. Alling <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Intercity passenger rail is expensive.  It's estimated that 
> Amtrak would
> > save the taxpayers money, (and in fact on some runs 
> actually make a profit),
> > if every time someone bought a train ticket they simply 
> issued them a plane
> > ticket to the same destination.  Australia is a mostly low 
> population
> > density place, much like most of the US so I expect the 
> same economics would
> > apply.
> 
> Allow me to rant.  I know that I can get from Harrisburg, Pa to St.
> Louis, Mo (a trip I make by car about twice a year) on the train.  The
> Amtrak map confirms it.  But if I go to the Amtrak site and try to
> book a train ride it tells me that I can't get there from here.  So I
> click the little multi-city trip link and start telling it where I
> want to go.  The Keystone takes me from Harrisburg to Pittsburgh.  The
> Capitol takes me from Pittsburgh to Chicago.  And the Illinois takes
> me from Chicago to St. Louis.  I can't just say that I'd like go from
> place to place, I have to tell it when I want to leave from each city
> along the way.  Since I don't know the train schedules I space them
> out over 2 days.  But there's not a daily Capitol from Pittsburgh, so
> I get a 26 hour layover 2 hours from home.  Does it take that into
> account when showing me fares from Chicago?  Noooo!  I have to hit the
> back button and start over, trying to remember exactly which train
> leaves when so that I can make the trip as short as possible.
> 
> Furthermore, there is no checked baggage service on the Keystone.  I
> also can't bring my bike.  I can check baggage from Pittsburgh to
> Chicago, but still can't bring a bike.  From Chicago to St. Louis I
> can bring my bike, but there's no checked baggage.  Gah!
> 
> Contrast this with the airlines.  I can get from any airport in the
> world to just about any other.  As you all know, I can go to Expedia
> or some similar site, plug in points A and B and it will show me a
> variety of options, consisting of different airlines, different
> layovers and different connections.  And they all get from A to B.  I
> can check my bags.  I can pay a few bucks extra and bring my bike.
> And since I have a credit card I can arrange for all of this within a
> few minutes and it's cheaper than the train.
> 
> Amtrak, however, makes me spend an hour on their site only to find out
> that train tickets from Harrisburg to St. Louis, for me alone, costs
> more than airfare for my whole family.  One company, one web site,
> they own the tracks (or lease them or whatever) and they can't figure
> out how to get me to where they can supposedly take me.
> 
> Spending 18 hours in the car over two days and paying for gas and food
> and a hotel for the family is the least expensive option, even with
> last summer's fuel prices.
> 
> Are you still bitching about rail travel in the UK, Bob?
> 
> ;-)
> 
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