Without the observer is there anything to be observed is the question. Spiritualists could argue either side, materialists will argue that the observer is irrelevant. I don't have an answer...

Joseph McAllister wrote:

On Aug 3, 2009, at 17:48 , P. J. Alling wrote:

“ Nature is considerably more creative and inventive than humankind. Without Nature there isn't any humankind. Without humankind, Nature is fine.”

How would anyone know?

Nature would not care if humankind knew or not.

If I rip your fingernails out in a secluded forest, does anybody hear? Care?

:-)

If it doesn’t excite you,
This thing that you see,
Why in the world,
Would it excite me?
—Jay Maisel

Joseph McAllister
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