Bob,

Ok, I read through it.  I still say, compared to modern cameras, that
outside of low light readings, there doesn't appear to be anything
overly special about using the meter in the LX.  I understand it reads
from the film plane, but outside of long exposures, I don't think that
is much, if any, advantage over meters in the viewfinder.  I'm trying
to think where else it would have an advantage - fireworks, lightning.

I think the lack of spot metering is a big take-away that has to be
balanced against the low-light capability.


Bruce Dayton



Friday, January 11, 2002, 6:22:02 AM, you wrote:

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BB> From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


>> Paul,
>>
>> I'm trying to figure out why everyone thinks the LX meter is so
>> fantastic.  Other than low light sensitivity, isn't it just a normal
>> center weighted meter?  Does it have special powers that other center
>> weighted meters don't (outside of low light sensitivity)?  Isn't it
>> mostly about understanding the equipment and how it works to be able
>> to use it wisely?
>>
>>
>> Bruce Dayton
>>
>> Thursday, January 10, 2002, 8:24:30 PM, you wrote:
>>
>> PS> I agree that an incident meter or a spot meter and careful calculation
BB> are
>> PS> superior to an in-camera meter, but the LX in -camera meter is very,
BB> very good
>> PS> and is far superior to guessing. Even when that guess is made by an
BB> experienced
>> PS> an knowledgable photograher. Of course you have to consider what's in
BB> frame and
>> PS> what your meter is reading. BTW, I've been using an incident meter (an
BB> old but
>> PS> very accurate Vivitar 285) with my 6x7 and am quite pleased with the
BB> results.
>> PS> Paul
>>
>> PS> "J. C. O'Connell" wrote:
>>
>> >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist
>> >> >
>> >> > Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > Spot metering on the LX would be nice, but since I don't use a
BB> meter
>> >> > > much these days, I don't really care too much one way or another.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm surprised that some people (not just you Shel) shun meters,
>> >> > yet agonize
>> >> > over ten seconds more or less development time, or whether to use
BB> this
>> >> > developer or that. An exposure that's off by 1/3 of a stop will do
BB> just as
>> >> > much to upset the balance of a negative as will 30 seconds too much
>> >> > development. The grain structure of a given developer and film will
BB> be
>> >> > affected significantly by half a stop too much or too little
BB> exposure. I
>> >> > don't understand why someone would not use a meter. Even in full sun,
>> >> > "sunny sixteen" exposures can be affected by airborne pollution or
BB> other
>> >> > atmospheric conditions. No one can consistently guess exposures to
BB> within
>> >> > more than half a stop. No one. Period. A meter is an invaluable tool
BB> much
>> >> > of the time. And with an LX, one can employ near faultless OTF
BB> metering
>> >> > with stepless shutter speeds in auto exposure aperture priority mode,
BB> so
>> >> > speed and spontaneity are not an issue. I don't understand the
>> >> > advantage of
>> >> > working without it.
>> >> > Paul
>> >>
>> >> The simple fact is that ALL in camera meters are reflectance type
BB> meters
>> >> and can give errors ( sometimes gross ) depending on what they are
BB> pointed
>> >> at. I use an INCIDENT hand held meter for critical exposures and
BB> transfer
>> >> the exposure settings manually to the camera for this very reason.
>> >>
>> >> Another big problem with in camera meters is they give different
BB> exposure
>> >> values as the camera is moved around EVEN THOUGH THE LIGHT HASNT
BB> CHANGED!!
>> >> I once shot an entire roll of slide film very fast ( motor drive) with
>> >> the camera on AE and the exposures varied all over the place. VERY
BB> annoying.
>> >> Never again. AE is OK for neg film due to latitude and corrections in
>> >> printing
>> >> but it sucks for slide film especially when the lighting conditions are
BB> not
>> >> changing.
>> >>
>> >> Since I have been using hand held incident meter my exposures have been
BB> near
>> >> perfect.
>> >> It doesnt work if lighting conditions are changing rapidly, but then
BB> again I
>> >> dont
>> >> like to shoot under those conditions to begin with since good lighting
>> >> conditions
>> >> is probably the single most important factor in getting a good
BB> photograph.
>> >> JCO
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