Thanks for that insight J.C.

Tom

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 3:43 AM, J.C. O'Connell <[email protected]> wrote:
> I like you, fell victim to CD in the mid 80's but I was lucky
> enough to "rediscover" vinyl around 20 years ago so I only strayed
> from vinyl for about 5 years. With good gear and good records, vinyl
> simply makes CD sound like what it is, a noise free, not audibly
> distorted, but LOW RESOLUTION format. Add to that the fact that
> there are way way more poorly mastered CD than poorly mastered
> LPS and you have a format that never matches a good LP and often
> doesn't even come close due to the poorer mastering problems....
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> Tom C
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> Subject: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital
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>
> OMG!... sorry for, the OT...
>
> I know my observations, forthcoming, are not scientific and subjective
> to the extreme... BUT...
>
> Like many, I got a CD player in the mid '80's and never looked back. The
> apparent 0 background noise, no clicking, pops, dust, made me love CD's.
>
> My son told me two months ago that he was interested in vinyl records.
> That's all it took to make me start looking around at vintage gear. I've
> kind of stagnated on a mid 90's Technics all-purpose AV receiver, quite
> well spec'd and all, with either Bose Acoustimass speakers and/or
> whatever is installed in the ceiling of our home.
>
> I started out planning on giving him my early '80's Kenwood 30W/channel
> system, amp, tuner, EQ, and getting a mint Technics TT and a better than
> average cartridge.  He would choose the loudspeakers.
>
> Well I went a small bit crazy.  He also was interested in reel-to-reel,
> something I always wanted, but I opted for cassette back in earlier
> years for $ reason and because I could make a tape and play it in the
> car. So I bought him a mint TEAC 3340S 4-track.  My Kenwood system,
> quite nice, but all I could afford at 21 yrs. old, does not accomodate
> the necessary tape inputs/outputs, dubbing, etc., and has no speaker A/B
> for a possible sub-woofer.  So onto look at more amps.
>
> I bought him a nice used Denon 50W/channel receiver & perfect Pioneer CD
> changer for $150.  Then I saw a Kenwood KA-3500 40W/channel integrated
> amp and got it for $31.  I subsequently saw a 65W/channel late '70's
> Pioneer integrated amp & tuner in mint condition with the silver fronts,
> wood sides, Blue Fluoro meters, and analog tuning for $260 + shipping.
> He liked it the best out of the bunch, and we got it.
>
> He had picked out some PSB (Canadian-made) speakers which are quite good
> (also my pick of the affordable ones we demo'd) and which are due to
> arrive.  Meanwhile I found a pair of mid '80's B&W English-made speakers
> for $100 and bought them undemo'd on a whim.
>
> I've sat here most of the day listening to some vintage LP'S (OK, 99%
> Beatles with a little Nat King Cole, Chicago, Heart, Macca, and
> classical thrown in).  This is with a $31 amp, a vintage turntable and a
> cheap Audio-Technica cartridge, and a 25 year old pair of speakers.
>
> I may never buy another CD again.  The amount of musical detail I can
> hear and the dynamics of the music (can't describe it any better) are
> just superb.  It sounds like real music and real voices.
>
> Likely the Pioneer turntable/cartridge and JBL tower speakers I could
> afford when I was much younger were not as good as what I'm listening to
> at the moment.  Just the musicality of what I'm hearing on 20-30 year
> old gear and on equally old vinyl LP's is astounding (I purchased 214,
> played only once LP's + a 50w/ch Technics receiver, cassette deck, a 2nd
> pretty good TT, and speakers (worthless), for $250). It was worth 2x-3x
> more than that for the LP's alone.  What I'm hearing is really better
> than what I hear on CD or iPod.
>
> Simply amazed... not over-imbibed, just astounded.  I got my hearing
> back.
>
> In between all that I found a '80's Pioneer 100W/channel amp, tuner, EQ,
> and timer for $95 in like new condition, which I got solely for the EQ &
> timer.
>
> (I'm not going to tell you this led to me getting a mint Denon amp &
> mint B&W speakers for myself... now looking for the right TT & tuner).
>
> It's not bad, living vicariously through your children.
>
> Tom
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