Not arguing or being argumentative, but if one already has two zooms
that start at 18mm, then buying additional zooms that have a wide
limit of 1 or 2 mm more is not getting him much, maybe a little speed,
depending on the lens. However, if the intent in purchasing is to use
it mainly as a wide angle, then a fast prime makes more sense in my
book, but then I'm not spending the money.

I hear "plenty fast" and things like that.  How fast a lens is and
whether it's speed is satisfactory is dependent largely on shooting
conditions, is it not?  I'd want the fastest lens
available/affordable, because just when you think your lense is fast
enough, it's not.

Tom

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Adam Maas <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Mark Roberts <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Larry Colen wrote:
>>
>>>I keep finding myself "needing" a lens that is wide, fast and
>>>preferably reasonably sharp. Pretty much all I have wider than 31 are
>>>my 18-55 and my 18-250. I'm thinking of diverting some of the money
>>>from selling my racecar to buying glass.
>>>
>>>I think that the ideal lens would be a 16-50, and I keep bumming that
>>>I never went for the one on craigslist just before I got laid off.
>>>
>>>Poking around on ebay, I've found a few options.
>>>
>>>Pentax 16-50 seems to go for $750-800
>>>A Zenitar K MC 2.8 16mm for $180
>>>A couple of Pentax SMC DA 14mm f2.8 ED for around $590
>>>SIGMA 17-35mm f2.8-4 DG EX $300
>>>Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4.5 DC $370
>>
>> How about the Pentax 16-45? Slower than the 16-50 but smaller and
>> cheaper.
>>
>
> Owned both that and the Sigma 17-70. The Sigma's as fast or faster,
> better built, at least as good optically and locks at its most compact
> at 17mm (rather than being fully extended as the 16-45 is at 16mm).
> The 16-45's got QSF as its sole advantage.
>
> Note I did like the results from the 16-45. But I had zero regrets
> when I purchased the 17-70 over the 16-45 after getting my K10D.
>
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