On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Joseph McAllister <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I disagree with you on the reliability question.
>
> I've never, ever, had a Mac (after they got away from the original design,
> which suffered from heat) that failed electronically or physically, other
> than hard drives, none of which were Apple supplied drives. Never memory
> failure, cpu failure, motherboard failure, CD or DVD ROM, monitors,
> keyboards, cables, speakers, etc. Never. Much of that gear I still have, and
> it still works just fine, including two PowerBook Duos, which were
> originally a 210 and 230 models, that I upgraded to 2300c with a color LCD
> screen on one, and left the 210 upgrade with it's original B&W LCD screen.
> Both has Duo Docks which contained color monitors, hard drives, modems, and
> external connectors for all available peripherals. I last used the 2300c as
> a cash register and database for a yard sale in 2007, at which time it was
> 15 years old. I can still purchase new battery packs for it, though I won't
> for obvious reasons.
>
> When working as a consultant, or in an IT division, or personally, the only
> problems I've encountered were software or networking errors caused by
> either the users, or the wrong choice of peripheral equipment. In the early
> days, 1984 to 1987, I had my share of sad Macs pop up on me, but they could
> always be traced to such things as an over-clocked CPU coming loose in an
> aftermarket crimp socket, a memory chip's legs oxidizing in their socket and
> needing cleaning, or the connection coming loose for my "BackPack" 20 meg
> hard drive that hooked on to the back of my Mac Plus and drew power from the
> Mac's power supply.
>
> By the way, just so you know what an idiot I am, this fanaticism about
> computers beginning in 1973 with Atari, Sinclair, Epson, then Apple and Mac,
> with parallel interests in Porsches, a powerful audio video wall in the
> family room, and racing, cost me the dream marriage to my second wife. Take
> heed, you younger set. Never ever become so involved in your hobbies that
> you forget what is really important in life.
>
> It's not that life is too short, it's that you're dead for so long......
> — Anon
>
> Joseph McAllister

I used to work at a Mac VAR, my experience is they fail at the same
rate as anything else from a similar-level brand (HP, IBM/Lenovo,
Toshiba, et al). That was late 68k/Early PPC era. I was a tech later
at a retail joint (Future Shop) for a short period during the early
iMac era and I've done a lot of other side-work supporting mac's and
PC's.

Performa's were notoriously unreliable, especially the later ones
which were hackjob's design-wise. The low-end PPC 603(e) based Mac's
were probably the worst for reliability, particularly the 4400, but
the 6500 was pretty bad as well. iBooks remain notorious for
graphics-related mainboard failures, which also plagued the eMac's as
well. G3 towers (Beige and B&W) had lots of IDE problems and
particularly with the first revision B&W, could self-corrupt a HDD due
to a bad IDE controller firmware. Actually IDE reliability was a
continuous problem for Mac's from the first IDE Performa's until the
second revision B&W G3. Heat issues were the bane of the G4 towers. I
could go on, but the Mac has had quite the record of reliability
issues over the years, many design related, some (Performa's
specifically) directly due to designed-in issues rather than hardware
or software bugs.

If you've never seen a dead Mac from hardware failure, you're just
about the luckiest Mac consultant/IT guy in existence. I've replaced
enough failed hardware in Macs over the years to see that. Good
hardware overall, but nothing special on reliability.

Right now I'm sitting in a room with a Mac II, PowerBook 170, PowerMac
8500(Dead for now due to the original drive failing) and a Centris
660AV. There's an eMac and a B&W G3 350 in my living room. I like
Mac's overall. But more reliable than equivalent PC's? Nope, not a
chance.

Most reliable desktops? IBM PS/2 Model 55's. Damned things are nearly
indestructible. Even if dropped. Saw them come out of Inco's North
Mine filled with metalic dust, a vacuum later and they were usually
good to go.

-- 
M. Adam Maas
http://www.mawz.ca
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