On Aug 28, 2010, at 7:35 PM, paul stenquist wrote:

> 
> On Aug 28, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Bob W wrote:
> 
>>> 
>>>>> I'm going to plung into this project for the next year. I want to
>>>> photograph
>>>>> people under the el tracks downtown.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would like to know how folks might meter for this project.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The 1st 3 photos were taken with the K20D last year, and from the sax
>>>> player
>>>>> on those photos were taken with the K7 this year.  All photos were at
>>>>> ISO
>>>>> 1600 except the sax player, which was 800.  You can see I've some
>>>> challanges
>>>>> with light and shadow.
>>>>> 
>>>>> All 7 photos here are *as shot* except for correction to level
>>>>> allignment
>>>> for
>>>>> the K20D shots.
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.caguila.com/caguila/trackstest
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I would shoot at the sensor's 'natural' iso - 100, 160 or whatever,
>>>> which will give you the most dynamic range. Meter for the highlights
>>>> and use the histogram to make sure you're exposing as far to the right
>> as
>>> you can.
>>> 
>>> If she meters for the highlights in this situation, she'll have nice pics
>> of the
>>> background, but the main subjects will be lost. If she pumps up the
>> shadows
>>> to restore them, they'll be noisy as hell.
>>> Paul
>> 
>> it's a trade-off between that and blown highlights. 
> 
> The highlights are insignificant background elements.With film, exposing for 
> highlights is okay. With digital, it's a no-no, because boosting shadows 
> turns them to shit. In any case, boosting the shadows during exposure is the 
> best solution here.
> Paul
> 
I meant to say, boosting the shadows during exposure with flash is the best 
solution here. Given the distances, one is not likely to overlight them. But a 
simple check of the results and adjustment of flash exposure comp can control 
that.
Paul

>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Then
>>>> use LR to pull the shadows to the left if that's needed. If you do
>>>> this you will ensure the maximum range without blowing out the
>>>> highlights. If the shadows turn to black then you've lost less then
>>>> you would if you hadn't expoised to the right.
>>>> 
>>>> If you want detail in the shadows then you need to be very careful
>>>> that you exclude extreme highlights from the frame. It's the same as
>>>> shooting slides, except for the histogram trick.
>>>> 
>>>> Bob
>>>> 
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