If you had fine light, did you take a picture? On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Stan Halpin <[email protected]> wrote: > I had a traffic infarction once, but got off with a relatively light fine. > > stan > > On Sep 21, 2010, at 1:09 PM, Bob W wrote: > >>> One of the big problems with health care in this country is that people >> don't >>> take responsibility for their own health. They eat lousy food. Or should I >> say >>> "over eat"? In the process they consume excessive amounts of fat and >> sugar. >>> They get no exercise. They become diabetic. Their arteries get clogged up >>> and they have heart attacks and strokes. They develop cancer. Then they >>> demand that the medical system go to any lengths to keep them alive. Who >>> ends up paying the bill? >>> >> >> that's the price of having universal healthcare. I'm fairly sure that in >> countries that have it, the overwhelming majority of people are happy to pay >> the price for the benefits it brings, one of which is the satisfaction of >> knowing you live in a civilised society that doesn't abandon the needy, >> however their need was caused. I support this principle wholeheartedly, and >> not just because I'm a really nice guy - enlightened self-interest comes >> into it. I have benefited from the system in times when I've been solely >> responsible for my injuries. >> >> In addition to that, it removes a burden which would otherwise fall on >> doctors. It's the responsibility of doctors in a well-ordered society to >> treat people based on clinical need, not on value judgments about the cause >> of the need (or on people's ability to pay). >> >>> Never expected to get into this kind of discussion on this list. But all >> in all, as >>> long as it's gone on and as many people who have participated, to this >> late >>> interloper it seems, for the radical differences of opinion, to have gone >> on >>> pretty civilly. >> >> we don't like to get over-excited in case it triggers an apoplectic >> infarction. >> >> Bob >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. >
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