On 9/29/2010 9:32 AM, Brian Walters wrote:
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 08:01 -0500, "Charles Robinson"<[email protected]>
wrote:
On Sep 29, 2010, at 4:27, Michel Carrère-Gée wrote:
Bonjour D. Schneller
Je vous écris en français, car je constate que la traduction en anglais ne vous
pose pas de problème.
Je viens de découvrir votre page:
http://www3.sympatico.ca/dschneller/manuals/PentaxSpot321.html
Si vous voulez bien (re)lire la mienne:
http://krg.pagesperso-orange.fr/collection/cellules.htm#spm
Vous constaterez que votre page est la traduction en anglais presque mot à mot
de la mienne, concernant le Spot Exposure Meter de Pentax; vous avez également
copié deux des images l'illustrant (je tiens les originaux non recadrés à votre
disposition).
En France, nous appelons çà du plagiat:
- les idées, les informations publiées deviennent publiques, vous pouvez les
utiliser.
- les textes, les images sont privées; vous n'avez PAS l'autorisation de les
utiliser dans vos pages web.
- vous avez le droit de citer de courts extraits à condition de mentionner
l'auteur et la source de ceux-ci.
En conséquence, je vous prie de modifier cette page et de l'illustrer avec vos
propres images, faute de quoi je demanderai son retrait à votre hébergeur.
Vous êtes photographe, (http://www3.sympatico.ca/dschneller) vous savez ce
qu'est la propriété des images.
What I find actually amusing about this is that Michel then puts a big
banner at the top of his page... stating in loud bright red letters that
his page has been translated into English on another page "WITHOUT MY
PERMISSION" - and then includes a LINK to said page.
Maybe it's not polite to make fun, but it struck me as odd behavior.
-Charles
Perhaps, but I suppose Michel's aim is to out this guy as a plagiarist.
No doubt the English translation is useful, but for Dave Schneller to
simply publish it without any sort of acknowledgment is inexcusable.
I've had a similar experience with a (non photographic) web site I
manage and the guilty party apologized and took down the copied pages.
I hope Michel posts the outcome in this case.
True but stuff like this is going to happen, it's not like anyone is
going to be kicked off the internet for copying a non commercial page.
I have a certain interest in the Vivitar Series One 70-210, and every
once in a while I'll do a Google search on it. You'd be amazed how many
discussions and web pages simply lifted text directly from Mark Robert's
page on the subject. Just cut and paste which in the context of the new
page and or discussion is awkward and strange, while in the original
context on Mark's page it makes perfect sense. At least this guy added
some value, and did a better translation than most,
That's not to defend him, but at least it's quality theft.
Cheers
Brian
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Western Sydney Australia
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