Sensitivity wasn't problem with the MZ-S  ;-)  I can understand where
someone might light the wheels i just wasn't one of them.  I usually
had my aperture set and let the body take care of shutter speed.  I
would occasionally need adjustment but never enough for anything to
becomes a reflex.  I guess the ultimate answer is that I never did any
of this stuff enough to notice.  of course, they could have simply
stuck a second wheel on the MZ-S.  None of the controls really have
much to do with the flat body, which was the aprt i really liked.

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 12:33 PM, John Francis <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 12:07:23PM -0400, Steven Desjardins wrote:
>> I never really noticed the open wheel thing on the MZ-S because I
>> always used the aperture ring.  As a matter of fact, I never (at the
>> time) got why anyone would want to use a body-based wheel for that.
>> Now I understand but i'm really not convinced that it's that big an
>> upgrade.  I know you can remap the wheels but I never do.
>
> Try adjusting aperture when manually focussing a long telephoto lens
> (and steadying it on a monopod, or panning on a tripod). You find
> that you need one hand on the body, one hand at the front of the
> lens (for focus and/or direction), and one hand on the aperture ring
> (not to mention one hand on the zoom control if it's a zoom lens).
>
> Another big benefit comes if you like to use Hyper Program mode.
> With a MZ-S control style you can't switch from aperture priority
> to shutter priority in a single step; you need to first switch to
> full program mode (by putting the lens to the "A" setting); until
> you do that you get manual exposure, not shutter priority.
>
> The flexibility of the control wheel assignment pays off if you
> like to adjust sensitivity - you don't need a third control; you
> can just map the two free variables you select to the two control
> wheels, and let the camera adjust the third one as necessary to
> get the desired exposure.
>
>>
>> The big ergonomic plus of the MZ-S for me was the the way that flat
>> body-grip combo fit in my hand.  I suppose that is the same thing Bob
>> was alluding to.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 12:00 PM, John Francis <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > It's a very personal thing. ?Ever since the PZ cameras came out,
>> > Pentax users have been split between those who like the aperture
>> > controls on the lens and those who like the controls on the body.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:33:06AM -0400, Igor Roshchin wrote:
>> >>
>> >> It was ZX-5n (MZ-5n in Europe) that brought me to Pentax, -
>> >> thanks to its ergonomic design - with the aperture ring
>> >> and shutter speed knob that could be controlled while blindfolded.
>> >> (no wheel crap that Nikons had).
>> >>
>> >> Interestingly, I had ~90% success rate of shooting "from the hip"
>> >> with ZX-5n, <5% with *ist DS, and ~60-70% with K-7.
>> >> While I am used to the wheels now, I think I would still prefer the
>> >> knobs.
>> >>
>> >> Igor
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sun Oct 17 10:01:12 CDT 2010
>> >> Adam Maas wrote:
>> >>
>> >> For me it's the Maxxum 7, not the MZ-S. For some reason I've just
>> >> never really gelled with the Pentax 35mm film camera's (the LX came
>> >> the closest, followed by the PZ-1p).
>> >>
>> >> The funny thing is that the K-7 is one camera I love the ergonomics
>> >> on. IMHO it's FAR better than any of the Pentax 35mm film cameras (in
>> >> fact it handles very similarly to the Maxxum 7, which it also
>> >> distinctly resembles).
>> >>
>> >> -Adam
>> >>
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