Paul wrote:

>thanks for the info, i was actualy after info on A series 120/4 macro. Is
>this optically the  same as the FA? except for the lack of AF of course.


Ooops...BTW  Jostein did a shootout with the A645 120/4 Macro on a K-mount 
slr and compared it to one of the common Pentax 135mm K-mount lenses; 
either the 135/2.8, 2,5 or 3.5 - I don't remember. The result was not that 
good; the K-mount lenses were clearly better.
However, as I said in a previous post, my FA645 120/4 macro is actually 
better, or equally good (at similar apertures), as the great A* 135/1.8. 
This may indicate that the FA 120 is significantly better than the A 120.

P�l
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