John you should blog this somewhere, it is bound to open a couple of
eyes here and there
off list reply after my nap
thank you
Ecke

2011/1/14 John Sessoms <[email protected]>:
> From: Darren Addy
>>
>> I too am anti-Facebook, but not against social-media.
>> Flickr is social media. YouTube is social media. Lots of things are
>> social media or social media aware (letting others Tweet and post
>> about it on their social media sites).
>> I dislike it when Facebook is the only thing that = social media to some
>> people.
>>
>> Sorta like how i hate the Photomatix-y "Dial it up to 11" look is
>> called HDR by many today.
>
> Yeah, you're right. I'm not really anti-social media. I have Flickr &
> YouTube and this mailing list. PDML is "social media" as far as I'm
> concerned, and it's the "social media" I chose for myself.
>
> What bothered me:
> 1. Facebook itself - I don't want it. I'm fine with anyone else who wants to
> use it. But, I resent it when I'm told that I'm some kind of defective
> because I don't have a Facebook account.
>
> I don't try to keep anyone else from using Facebook. Let them do what they
> want to do. So why should anyone else try to force me to use Facebook if I
> don't want it.
>
> Why can't I be allowed to do what I want to do?
>
> 2. More bothersome to me is that they weren't about using Facebook because
> of the value of having relationships, but for how easily it could be
> manipulated to use people.
>
> It's a marketing strategy based on deception. The presentations were all
> about side-stepping Facebook's minimal controls so you could use your
> "friends" pages to SPAM all of their "friends". The value of a Facebook
> "friend" is all calculated in how many dollars can be extracted from them.
>
> And remember, what we're really talking about here is high school kids; how
> to separate them from their money. It's not about providing value or
> service, it's about scamming 'em out of their lunch money.
>
> 3: The amount of time you actually have to spend SPAMMING with Facebook to
> stay competitive - 24/7/365. Never did get an answer to my question: When
> does that leave time to actually be a photographer?
>
> As I've said before, I already spend too much unproductive time on the
> computer with PDML - time I should be out taking photographs of *something*.
> But PDML is something I value; something I want for itself; something that
> I'm willing to give up some of my productive time because of what I get in
> return.
>
> But PDML can't be valued with a dollar sign. According to these experts, I
> can't *USE* PDML for personal monetary gain, so I shouldn't be here at all.
> I should be over on Facebook squeezing every dime I can out of its users.
>
> That's a sociopathic value system that I just have to refuse.
>
> I can't take every aspect of my life and value it only according to how much
> money I can squeeze out of it. If for no other reason than that eliminates
> all the fun stuff and leaves only the drudgery.
>
> And sooner or later, I have to look at myself in the mirror, and I want to
> be able to respect the man I see there.
>
> Just writing this has given me additional insight into why this stuff
> bothered me so much. How many dollars is that worth? How do you place a
> monetary value on self knowledge? ... on self respect?
>
>
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