On 11-03-16 1:22 PM, Eric Weir wrote:
On Mar 15, 2011, at 9:08 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Did you learn about tcpdump or Wireshark during your year of living Linuxly?  
You could inspect a packet trace of the email transfer to see if some other 
weirdness is going on.
Nope, not familiar with those.

I should've asked Godfrey how he determined it was a server issue. Also, if he 
was able to get it fixed, how he did so. Talking with his provider?

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Eric Weir
Decatur, GA  USA
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The problem here is that ISP's are taking the brunt of all email submission now. That means their servers have to be able to handle tens to hundreds of thousands of clients passing in email every hour. Inevitably there will be times when they are overloaded and drop connections or won't accept new ones. That's quite possibly what you are experiencing.

As big as they are, I've had this problem with Gmail. I configure Thunderbird to connect to Gmail to read mail via IMAP and send mail back through Gmail's SMTP servers. Every so often I get a failed-to-send dialog and I just have to retry. It usually succeeds on the 2nd try.

Back in the good ol' days, everybody had a local MTA (mail transport agent) in their network that accepted mail from their mail clients and queued it up for delivery upstream. The MTA takes care of dealing with those timeouts due to momentary network glitches by doing automatic retries and you don't have to see any of that. As far as you can tell, you hit Send and it just goes.

It's possible to set up an MTA (eg sendmail, or better yet, Postfix) on your workstation. Macs come with Postfix installed, but disabled by default. It's not hard to enable it. It is a little tricky to do all the configuration needed to get it forwarding mail for you (and dealing with SSL certificates etc.), and quite honestly I don't recommend it unless you are a *really* serious tinkerer.

-bmw

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