It is counterproductive to produce a software or hardware commodity to meet the 
needs of everyone who might use them.

If you don't like the way MAIL behaves, adapt, or go elsewhere for your 
solution. DON'T whine about it on PDML.


On Mar 16, 2011, at 10:23 , steve harley wrote:

> On 2011-03-16 00:34 , Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 8:33 PM, steve harley<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>> that's not a hierarchy, it's just a bunch, and a bunch that's sorted by
>>> time, instead of which messages replied to which; it's not really nested at
>>> all because the first item is a psuedo-item that changes depending which
>>> messages are marked read
>> 
>> Mail isn't naturally multi-threaded. It's not a discussion, it's a timeline.
> 
> of course it is a discussion, and the timeline approach fails as the 
> discussion branches
> 
> a beauty of email is that the discussion need not be linear -- it's not a 
> strict analog of a verbal discussion; people intuitively know this; they go 
> off on pun romps while others are answering the serious question in a thread 
> or getting political, and the timelines of these branches overlap, but a 
> proper display sorts it all out and helps the reader follow the branching, 
> decide what to read and when; for example i just bailed out of the 
> "twicification" and "hamburger" branches of the SMC 15 thread
> 
> 
>>> no, it marks a message when it has been _displayed_; this makes it awkward
>>> to glance at a message body before deciding whether to read it now
>> 
>> Oh, you want it to display a content preview. Just use the web client
>> for Mail instead.
> 
> no i don't want that -- it was just one example of how touching a message is 
> not the same as reading it; there are several practical implications and also 
> a principle at work here
> 
> 
>> It works fine for me. But that's why they make so many flavors of ice
>> cream too. :-)
> 
> i'll resist the standard "Apple makes only one flavor" reply and ask is an 
> email client a flavor of ice cream, or is it an ice cream shop, or what? how 
> about if food had a preferences menu item, and if you didn't like something 
> about it you could change it as you ate it -- too salty, dial it down / needs 
> more chocolate chips ...

Joseph McAllister
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“ Nature is considerably more creative and inventive than humankind. Without 
Nature there isn't any humankind. Without humankind, Nature is fine.”


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