> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> Bruce Walker
> 
> I want to isolate one statement and ask a question, especially of the
> list members grounded in fine arts:
> 
> "The greatest artists know how to create a distance from their
> subjects."
> 
> Is this considered a fundamental truth, a given?  Or is this merely one
> man's (likely quite learned) opinion?  Was old Leonardo truly distant
> from his subject in the Mona Lisa (just to pick one old chestnut). Or
> is
> that not an example of a great artist?
> 

I read his statement as being about street photographers, not about artists
in general, although I may be wrong. 

Any given statement about what art is or what artists do will receive an
immediate fusillade of protest & challenge from everyone else who takes an
interest in the subject, regardless of their actual grounding. No harm in
that - it is only opinion and a pleasant way of passing time until we hear
the scratching sound of the Reaper honing his scythe.

In some ways this is what art is: a long argument about what art is. Every
statement about the nature of art necessarily limits it, puts a boundary on
it. In response, someone else will produce a work that refutes it, breaks
the boundary, yet is still undeniably art. Trying to define art is like
trying to pin quicksilver to the ceiling. 

I think he means something similar to the notion that every writer has a
splinter of ice in the heart. That whatever situation you are involved in,
however closely, there is still a part of you that is watching ironically
from the shelter of a doorway, and laughing quietly at the foolishness of it
all. I do think this is present in some of Maier's pictures, and I think it
may be a necessary condition of great art, but not a sufficient condition. 

B

> Seems to me that in street photography there's been a movement lately
> to
> get in close with a wide angle and "get involved". Are none of those
> practitioners any good?  OK, good, but not great?
> 
> What about the famous portraitists, like Canada's fave, Karsh.  He
> would
> spend hours puttering around and getting to know his subject, even
> affecting him (eg Churchill and the cigar incident) to get what he
> wanted.
> 
> What about that famous line about "the camera looks two ways"?
> 
> I'm not trying to preach, btw. I'm quite interested in this as my art
> history education is sorely lacking.



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