On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:45 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

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> On 7/20/2011 19:50, William Robb wrote:
>> On 20/07/2011 2:02 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
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>>> Like Christine , I feel uncomfortable shooting the unfortunate and while
>>> that photo of Shel's is powerful it is also maudlin (skipping around to
>>> referencing other posts here - sorry) and cruel.
>>> 
>> 
>> I'm going to challenge you on that one Ann. Lets presume for the sake of
>> discussion that the story under the picture is true (and I have no
>> reason to believe otherwise, and neither should you).
> 
> Story under the picture?... I didn't see anthing but the photo... hmmm.
> 
>> With that in mind, the subject new the camera was present, and I expect
>> new he was being photographed. Without going back and looking, I believe
>> Shel mentioned he had shot most of a roll of film on that subject.
>> So, the subject was knowingly being photographed in what had
>> unfortunately become his natural environment.
>> I'll agree with the maudlin part, but cruel?
> (well, projecting here... you know why)
> 
>> There had to have been at least a tacit approval on the subject's part
>> regarding the image being shot, and one would presume that had he
>> objected, the image wouldn't have been made (though this would depend
>> entirely on how sensitive Shel was that day).
> 
> Difference between what Shel chose to show others and someone knowing
> he was taking their photo...
> 
>> 
>> How is Shel's picture, taken with the subject's permission any more
>> cruel than this one by Paul, more obviously with permission I'll admit,
>> for example:

I paid the guy five bucks to take his photo. He wasn't being taken advantage 
of. He earned some money. 
Paul

>> 
>> http://pug.komkon.org/LX_Gallery/Gallery_index.html
> 
> Well for one thing, the guy is looking straight at Paul...
> for another, unless you read Paul's story about it, he is just a guy
> who kinda looks like some peoples idea of what Jesus looked like or
> would have looked like and I certainly couldn't tell he was holding money.. 
> looks like note paper since he has a pen in his hand. I can't
> tell he is begging from looking at the photo.  I don't remember the photo tho 
> I surely should becuase of where it is.. that is in the LX gallery.
> 
> ann
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