On Sep 27, 2011, at 8:41 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

> What verbal adjective begins with f, is frequently not written out by
> replacing it's letters by placeholders, and is often used by
> passionate people like our friend Bill?

I get that, but it's not in this thread, which appears to be about shooting 
jpegs and includes no comments from Bill.  Perhaps it was in another branch of 
the thread. I skipped most of it, so I wouldn't know.


> 
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Paul Stenquist <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> 
>> On Sep 27, 2011, at 8:25 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
>> 
>>> "That would be the f-- message?"
>>> 
>>> Seriously Bill, at first i thought you were just cussing.
>> 
>> 
>> Huh???
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Paul Stenquist <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 27, 2011, at 7:07 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 11-09-27 5:38 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
>>>>>> From: Larry Colen
>>>>>>> I just ran across my photos from burning man a year ago where I
>>>>>>> hadn't realized that my freshly repaired K20 had been reset to the
>>>>>>> factory default of "shoot jpeg".  If I cared so little about my
>>>>>>> photos that I wanted to shoot JPEGs, I wouldn't spend the money on a
>>>>>>> DSLR.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you get the exposure (and white balance, and ...) correct in camera 
>>>>>> JPEG is all you need.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The best film-days analogy I have is that shooting straight to JPEG is 
>>>>> like shooting Polaroids, and shooting RAW is like shooting negatives.  
>>>>> The Polaroid gives you the convenience of straight to finished picture, 
>>>>> at the expense of doing any darkroom work.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Everyone shoots differently and decides what convenience level they 
>>>>> prefer and what they'll give up for it. For me, the RAW image I get in 
>>>>> the camera is just the beginning of the journey to a finished image. I 
>>>>> don't publicly display a single image, not one, that I can say is 
>>>>> Straight Out Of Camera. I have lots of images that I've never edited, but 
>>>>> it's because they haven't been flagged as keepers for further work.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -bmw
>>>> 
>>>> I agree with Bruce. Although I might compare shooting jpegs to shooting 
>>>> transparency film, while shooting RAW is more like shooting negative film. 
>>>> However, RAW conversion gives you many more options for image improvement 
>>>> than does printing a negative. For example, you can set the white point 
>>>> and black point to suite the image perfectly, and you can adjust contrast 
>>>> and brightness in the midrange without changing those end point values. 
>>>> You can fill shadow areas with a bit of light while leaving the rest of 
>>>> the image virtually untouched. You can fine tune your saturation and white 
>>>> point. And more. The only time I shoot jpegs is when I have to produce 500 
>>>> frames for virtual tours. But for anything else, it's RAW. I'd be lost 
>>>> without the control that RAW affords.
>>>> Paul
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