Bill's comment, about 17 posts back: "That would be the f-- message? People seem to expect the camera to start playing Il Trovatore whenever there is a wrong setting. Perhaps the Japanese needed a deeper history in opera."
Sorry to create the distraction. On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Paul Stenquist <[email protected]> wrote: > I get it. Hard to keep up with this one. I went left at the fork and ran into > a dead end. > > On Sep 27, 2011, at 8:52 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > >> Yeah, it's a forking thread error, Paul. >> >> >> On 11-09-27 8:45 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: >>> On Sep 27, 2011, at 8:41 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: >>> >>>> What verbal adjective begins with f, is frequently not written out by >>>> replacing it's letters by placeholders, and is often used by >>>> passionate people like our friend Bill? >>> I get that, but it's not in this thread, which appears to be about shooting >>> jpegs and includes no comments from Bill. Perhaps it was in another branch >>> of the thread. I skipped most of it, so I wouldn't know. >>> >>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Paul Stenquist<[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> On Sep 27, 2011, at 8:25 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> "That would be the f-- message?" >>>>>> >>>>>> Seriously Bill, at first i thought you were just cussing. >>>>> >>>>> Huh??? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Paul Stenquist<[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> On Sep 27, 2011, at 7:07 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 11-09-27 5:38 PM, John Sessoms wrote: >>>>>>>>> From: Larry Colen >>>>>>>>>> I just ran across my photos from burning man a year ago where I >>>>>>>>>> hadn't realized that my freshly repaired K20 had been reset to the >>>>>>>>>> factory default of "shoot jpeg". If I cared so little about my >>>>>>>>>> photos that I wanted to shoot JPEGs, I wouldn't spend the money on a >>>>>>>>>> DSLR. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you get the exposure (and white balance, and ...) correct in >>>>>>>>> camera JPEG is all you need. >>>>>>>> The best film-days analogy I have is that shooting straight to JPEG is >>>>>>>> like shooting Polaroids, and shooting RAW is like shooting negatives. >>>>>>>> The Polaroid gives you the convenience of straight to finished >>>>>>>> picture, at the expense of doing any darkroom work. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Everyone shoots differently and decides what convenience level they >>>>>>>> prefer and what they'll give up for it. For me, the RAW image I get in >>>>>>>> the camera is just the beginning of the journey to a finished image. I >>>>>>>> don't publicly display a single image, not one, that I can say is >>>>>>>> Straight Out Of Camera. I have lots of images that I've never edited, >>>>>>>> but it's because they haven't been flagged as keepers for further work. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -bmw >>>>>>> I agree with Bruce. Although I might compare shooting jpegs to shooting >>>>>>> transparency film, while shooting RAW is more like shooting negative >>>>>>> film. However, RAW conversion gives you many more options for image >>>>>>> improvement than does printing a negative. For example, you can set the >>>>>>> white point and black point to suite the image perfectly, and you can >>>>>>> adjust contrast and brightness in the midrange without changing those >>>>>>> end point values. You can fill shadow areas with a bit of light while >>>>>>> leaving the rest of the image virtually untouched. You can fine tune >>>>>>> your saturation and white point. And more. The only time I shoot jpegs >>>>>>> is when I have to produce 500 frames for virtual tours. But for >>>>>>> anything else, it's RAW. I'd be lost without the control that RAW >>>>>>> affords. >>>>>>> Paul >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
