Wow!  that was interesting to read, Stan.  Thanks for sharing that.  Cheers, 
Christine



On Oct 27, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:

> 
> On Oct 27, 2011, at 7:03 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Wed Oct 26 19:52:19 EDT 2011
>> Cotty wrote:
>> 
>>> On 26/10/11, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:
>> 
>>>> Thanks in advance for your input!!
>> 
>> <..>
>> 
>>> When I started out, I pitched myself where I thought companies could
>>> afford - which didn't seem too cheap, nor too expensive. I was wrong.
>>> The companies I do videos for *need* to feel they are getting the best
>>> they can afford - when I put my prices up, the work increased.
>>> 
>>> If your fee is too low, you'll have the penny-pinchers interested. Put
>>> your fee up to what you might think is a bit too much, and you'll have
>>> clients with fat wallets interested.
>> 
>> Cotty's opinion is similar to what this guy expresses:
>> http://www.danheller.com/biz-prints.html#5
>> 
>> 
>> And Paul's up-front fee that goes toward the photos is a great model
>> for what you described.
>> 
>> 
>> Igor
>> 
> From a seminar many years ago, a pitch to full-time professionals who were 
> thinking of full-time or part-time consulting work:
> 
> a. Figure what annual salary you are comfortable with.
> b. Divide by 2080 to get an hourly rate.
> c. Multiply by 2 to take account of factors such as business taxes, 
> insurance, etc.; idle time, sick time, vacation time.
>       (i.e., assume overhead costs of 100%)
> d. Adjust slightly to take account of factors such as higher or lower 
> overhead costs in your given profession, lower rates charged by the bulk of 
> your competitors, etc.
> e. If you are not going to bill for expenses directly, then figure typical 
> overhead for typical jobs, divide by the number of hours on a typical job, 
> and add that to your hourly rate.
> 
> So, to simplify the math, say you are shooting for an annual income of 
> $104,000. That would be an rate in the neighborhood of $100/hr. including 
> overhead but not including expenses.
> 
> The above all assumes that you value your time and have alternative pursuits 
> (e.g., harassing cormorants and ducks on the waterfront) to occupy you when 
> you are not gainfully employed. This model has you charging for your time and 
> any product sold (8x10 prints) is just a supplemental income stream which 
> will allow you to travel first-class to GFM.  If you don't value your time, 
> then just charge for the product produced; figure your expenses, and charge 
> enough markup to cover those. This 2nd approach isn't so much a 
> business/professional model as a hobbyist model.
> 
> To mesh this with Paul's approach to billing, I would charge your $100/hr (or 
> whatever) upfront based on anticipated time involvement, but that includes at 
> least xyz images from which the client will receive x prints of a given size. 
> 
> stan
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