On Dec 11, 2011, at 5:19 PM, Mark C wrote:

> HI Paul - My 2 cents: the birds needed some fill flash but not as much as 
> they got. My guess is that  -2 EV of flash comp, from what you shot, would 
> have gotten you most of the benefits of the FF without creating the flashed 
> look. I don't know if that would help with the fringing or not. I think of 
> fill flash in an image like spice in a recipe - when it's used right, you 
> don't notice it.
> 
> Sounds like you had a fun outing!
> 
> Mark C.
> 
Thanks Mark. I agree. I could probably have tamed it more in rendering as well. 
But I'm going to dial it back more next time. With previous camera I had to 
shoot at ISO 400 or thereabouts, so the flash contribution was minimized. At 
ISO 1000 with the K5, it becomes too prominent.

Paul
> On 12/11/2011 11:39 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> While I agree with Bob that natural light is almost always better than 
>> flash, it isn't always practical. Here's a comparison of the same bird shot 
>> with and without flash. Now, if I had better long glass, I might be able to 
>> pull off more available light wildlife shots, but the A400 is extremely 
>> prone to color fringing when backlit even by a bright, indirect sky. Here's 
>> the no-flash shot. Color is nothing special, there is more modeling of the 
>> shape, but there's also an abundance of fringing. I could PhotoShop the 
>> fringing out of there but given the overall dullness of the shot, it 
>> wouldn't be worth the trouble, IMO.
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14783692&size=lg
>> 
>> Here's the same bird  shot with flash fill. It's not full power. The flash 
>> comp was set at -1 stop. But -1.5 would have been better.
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14780352&size=lg
>> 
>> I'm hoping that Pentax shows up with a DA* 400/4 some time soon. And it's 
>> less than $1500.
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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