Hi all!

1) to Shel:
2) to Artur (see below please :)
[...]
SB> "standard" developers.  Somewhere I have a formula to make your own
SB> Rodinal ... more than I care to do these days.

:-) I too have a whole books of developer formulae - especially Orwo
and Foma and other "eastern" and pre-war developers, as it was for
many decades cheaper to make it yourself than buy it mixed. I must try
something of it one day. At least the extremely compensating
Methol-only developer to get some tonality back out of a lith (repro)
film emulsion. If only I could get decent laboratory weighs :(

SB> Indeed!  Rodinal at 1:100 produces some beautiful results, although I've
[...]
SB> give HP5+ a bath in the stuff as well, and maybe TX, too.  Have you used
SB> Rodinal 1:100 with these films?  What have your results been like?

Me not (yet. Tomorrow 1:100 with the Ilford Pan 400). But I have seen
some really gorgeous, jaw dropping prints from a guy who uses either
Tri-X, Double X or HP5+, who uses 1:100 for a long time already.
Gorgeous, grain is just so so visible too much in the 18x24cm print
(it's Rodinal, remember <g>), but the tonality and sharpness is great.
I will post my results with the Pan 400 1:100 combo too.

2) Hi Artur!

AL> The Pan family are the cheapest Ilford b/w films. There is ISO 100, 200 and 400 
(I'm not sure if there's
AL> anything faster). AFAIK, this is something like Kodak
AL> Academy, since it lacks an anti-reflection layer. It's, however, of much better 
quality (great tonality,
AL> sharpness etc) than the Academy. It costs about half the
AL> price of HP5+ in Poland.

Iso 200 ? I have never seen a Pan 200 - are you sure? It's just over
the border and all we get is just 100 and 400 !

lacking anti-reflection layer? You mean anti-halation layer?

I seriously doubt it, Artur, as all films (except the infra - Kodak
HIE) have anti-halation layer. Otherwise, you would get pretty crappy
pictures in any kind of backlight or high contrast situation - exactly
these situations I shoot Pan 400 pushed at.

I don't know the Academy, but I can only second your statement -
Ilford Pan 400 is second only Tri-X and HP5+, by a very little margin, and
the dev times are same for both 100 and FP4+ and 400 as HP5+, so they in
all probability are at least very similar films to their more
expensive brethern. However, the price isn't so good anymore - now I
get bulk Pan 400 at only ~33% less the price of bulk HP5+ (although
when buying film in 36 exp boxes, it's about 50% difference. I never
buy 36 exp film if I don't have to though). Sad thing is that Ilford
prices almost DOUBLED over the last three years! I remember
HP5+ at around 85Kc now it costs nearly 160Kc per 36exp ! Similar for
boxed Pan 400. (although the prices are still managable when buying
bulk rolls of film - did I tell you that I can get bulk rolls of HP5+
which makes the film 40% (sic!) cheaper than buying 36exp boxes <G>?)

Anyway,
       let us know what are the results using the R09. Does Foma still
       cooperate with Poland chemistry plant? There were several
       things they made together I think.


Good light,
   Frantisek Vlcek
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