OK then. On Aug 21, 2012, at 23:37 , Boris Liberman wrote:
> Joseph, you're certainly right. You will notice however that about 12 > words into my message I've put IMVHO - In My Very Humble Opinion, and > I meant just that. > > My second guessing of these marketing people however many are there is > based on the fact that the likes of Panasonic and Sony were not very > well known in this market 7 or 10 years ago. Now Sony seems to be the > third biggest manufacturer/seller and Panasonic has done wonders too. > Pentax on the other hand does not demonstrate similar performance. No, > I don't want to start a flame war. The sky is not falling and my, > yours and everyone else's gear will still shoot straight. Nonetheless, > to ignore these issues is pretty unwise in my eyes. After all, both > you and I want to see Pentax keep selling their gear for many years to > come but if they make marketing mistakes and those mistakes cost them > dearly, we'd be in trouble, wouldn't we? > > Pentax appears to be successful in the direction of fashionable gear > for the masses. This is very valid and very sensible move in the > corporative/business sense. I don't belong to these crowds. So I state > my (Very Humble) opinion. > > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Joseph McAllister <[email protected]> wrote: >> "We" are not the only market Pentax is selling to. If we were, the many >> colored body parts chosen to order would be in Best Buy right now. But it >> isn't. Star Wars was fun at first, but now it looks like it should be in an >> OR, hot out of the sterilizer. >> >> "We" are, for the most part, looking what is best for "our" brand of >> photography. There is no reason to denigrate the body or lens we don't want >> to use, especially if we've never used it. >> >> Second guessing the 20 or 100 people at Pentax/Ricoh who have some amount of >> experience at marketing is foolish, unless you are one of them. Those people >> have the research, the charts with lines and arrows to consult. "We" just >> have opinions. Which is our freedom. The freedom to voice "our" opinions >> about "our" wants and needs to further the photographic trail we prefer to >> take. >> >> Japanese translation needed for Pentax Japan. >> >> On Aug 21, 2012, at 20:41 , Boris Liberman wrote: >> >>> Boris wrote: >>> Not to burst your bubble, Darren, but I am afraid you're quite wrong. >>> IMVHO, this new camera is totally "me too" run of the mill effort from >>> Pentax. They has few such cameras before and now they bring yet another >>> one. I strongly doubt that being 4 mm FL at wide end it will have 4x >>> sensor. More likely 7x sensor or 6x sensor so that it will turn out to be >>> more earthly 24 mm or 28 mm on the wide end. >>> >>> Again, it seems to me like a big waste of time and effort on Pentax part. >>> This market seems to be very much saturated by offerings from Panasonic, >>> Canon and others so that to really penetrate it Pentax would have to sweat >>> its marketing muscle, which as I was told here is not very strong. And >>> obviously X-5 will have to be nothing short of outstanding to begin with. >>> >>> Diversity is good, but if you diversify between X-5, Q, WP series and K-01, >>> you may have overstretched it... Ricoh has/had a series of very good >>> compact cameras, why not to capitalize on that. Add to their well thought >>> interface, ergonomics and excellent optics Pentax's WP know-how and you get >>> yourself something that I think is easier to market than X-5... >>> >>> As of recently Pentax does not impress me. I hope that this autumn will >>> bring better news than X-5 or Q... >>> >>> Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
