Doh. The URL… http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16498665&size=lg On Oct 3, 2012, at 4:01 PM, Paul Stenquist <[email protected]> wrote:
> Interesting. Would love to be able to afford a few of those. They appear to > be bulb soft boxes as well. > > Some dozen years ago I authored a commercial for Dodge Ram that had the truck > climbing a mountain at night in a storm. Barking Weasel, the production > company that shot it – on Mammoth Mountain in California – used one big soft > box mounted on a crane to simulate moonlight and several huge strobes to > simulate lightning flashes. And, of course, a Hollywood rain machine, which > is basically a giant overhead sprinkler, and several smoke machines to make > fog. Some PAs were assigned to climb trees, so they could drop branches down > on the truck as it passed. We even had a wolf who appeared to come snarling > out of the bushes, although he was actually shot in a studio and edited in > later. The sound track was a woman singing Steppenwolf's "Born to be Wild." > > I don't' have the commercial on line, but I have a still I shot that I took > with my LX. Don't remember what lens for sure, but it was probably the > M200/4. I just opened the shutter in auto exposure mode and waited for a > "lightning bolt" to provide enough illumination and close the shutter. Seen > here before, but probably not in the last ten years. Note the heavy grain. > Probably ISO 800 film. We used to think that was okay. I was kind of shocked > to see the grain when I opened this file today. Hadn't looked at it in ten > years or so. Perhaps the grain works here, although it generally seems more > appropriate in BW photography. > > Paul > On Oct 3, 2012, at 2:34 PM, Bruce Walker <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Nearly broke my Google-fu, but here's the vid ... >> >> http://www.petapixel.com/2012/08/05/shooting-a-mini-cooper-at-night-using-giant-bags-of-light >> >> The bag-o-light is by these guys ... >> >> http://www.licht-technik.com/eng/html/bol_turn.html >> >> This bunch were shooting outside so didn't have the superstructure and >> needed floating light. >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Paul Stenquist <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> Those giant lighting soft boxes are usually called fisher boxes, after the >>> company that makes them and rents them for shoots. You need a studio with a >>> superstructure above to mount one, and a lot of equipment to control it. >>> The idea is that you can tilt it in such a way that it both lights the car >>> and creates an artificial horizon, reflected in the car. They're most often >>> used with bulbs (sodium vapor lamps I believe), rather than strobes, since >>> that makes it easier to set up the lighting. Plus, the same box can be used >>> for television production as well as stills. They're usual augmented with a >>> number of flags and flats to fine tune the lighting. >>> >>> >>> On Oct 3, 2012, at 1:52 PM, Bruce Walker <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> There was that car advert BTS video someone posted here a few months >>>> back (I think) where they showed a giant floating light source that >>>> turned out to be an enormous softbox. A company specializes in >>>> building and renting these things for shooting cars. >>>> >>>> Besides a large soft light source you'd need to flag a lot of glass, >>>> chrome and polished areas to improve their contrast in the shot. >>>> >>>> When I did a table-top shoot of my light meter for a blog article, I >>>> used my hand as a flag to block direct light from the 24" softbox onto >>>> the LCD display. That made an enormous difference to the meter's final >>>> appearance. All covered in the Light, Science & Magic book. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 1:21 PM, J.C. O'Connell <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Ive never shot cars with flash professionally but I have seen pro setups >>>>> where the flash diffusers are larger than cars! (soft lighting across the >>>>> whole vehicle). >>>>> >>>>> ----------------- >>>>> J.C.O'Connell >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> ----------------- >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: PDML [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 11:26 AM >>>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>> Subject: Re: Photographing cars with a strobe? >>>>> >>>>> I've been shooting cars with flash for more than thirty years, both night >>>>> and day. It isn't a bad idea, but it can be tricky. I don't think it will >>>>> help you achieve nice compositions in a crowded showroom, but it can work >>>>> well as fill in daylight or as illumination at night. >>>>> >>>>> I used flash for fill on this dreary day shot. It ended up edge-to-edge on >>>>> the front page of the Times auto section. I was low enough to avoid >>>>> reflection problems, and I used a diffuser on the flash. It has been >>>>> shown >>>>> here before. >>>>> >>>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14450338&size=lg >>>>> >>>>> I've used flash on numerous occasions to achieve motion blur effects at >>>>> night, with a frozen central image. These are usually shot at /.8th of a >>>>> second while panning: >>>>> >>>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3708948&size=lg >>>>> >>>>> And I've used it to achieve sharp pics at night as well. I pick a shutter >>>>> speed and stop that will give me some background illumination without >>>>> turning it into day, and I tilt the head of the flash up to avoid burning >>>>> out the foreground. I usually burn in the foreground a bit as well. Could >>>>> have cloned out the hotspot here but didn't bother since it's not all that >>>>> distracting. >>>>> >>>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11498399&size=lg >>>>> >>>>> Paul >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 3, 2012, at 8:45 AM, Larry Colen <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I have headed over to Canepa motors a few times to play with >>>>>> photographing >>>>> cars. There is a lot of pretty machinery there. Unfortunately, there >>>>> isn't >>>>> much room and it's pretty much impossible to get a picture of a single car >>>>> isolated from the other cars on the floor. I had the thought that it >>>>> might >>>>> be possible to do something to isolate a car from the background by using >>>>> strobes and taking advantage of the inverse square law, to light a car, >>>>> and >>>>> put a lot less light on any other distracting cars in the background. >>>>>> >>>>>> I suspect that there are a lot of pitfalls to this technique, starting >>>>> with all of the things on most cars that are shiny. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've also considered using a strobe to shoot a car outside at night, for >>>>> very similar reasons. >>>>>> >>>>>> Does anyone have experience usign flashes to photograph cars? Can you >>>>> give me some good simple reasons why this is, if not a bad idea, at least >>>>> a >>>>> lot more work than other possible techniques? >>>>>> >>>>>> LRC >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Larry Colen [email protected] sent from i4est >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>>> follow the directions. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>>> follow the directions. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>>> follow the directions. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -bmw >>>> >>>> -- >>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>> follow the directions. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >> >> >> >> -- >> -bmw >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
