Do you really think, Peter that you and your property don't belong to
your state? (notice that I am using word "you" and "your" a number of
times on purpose)...
On 12/19/2012 10:01 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
That's true communism, however every communist system bigger than a
shaker community that has been tried is actually a form of fascism,
whereby all property and all citizens belong to the state. The rest is
just window dressing.
On 12/19/2012 2:38 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:
The caveat here that if you're grown up enough you can agree to limit
some of your privacy by choosing to sign an agreement. Now if the
'good' that may come to you is attractive enough (e.g. you won't be
facebook-less outcast) you will sign it anyway. And since the state
has so much to gain from 'partnering' with facebook, they won't
interfere... And so you will soon enough arrive at things such as
instagram mishap.
By the way it occurs to me that if instagram really decided to be
truly communistic, it would say something like this - by uploading
your pics to us you give up all the rights - we can use them as we
please, but in return you can use pictures of any other user for any
purpose whatsoever. Of course that's not gonna happen, ever.
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On December 19, 2012 3:08:21 PM John Sessoms <jsessoms...@nc.rr.com>
wrote:
From: Doug Franklin
> On 2012-12-18 23:23, Tom C wrote:
>> In what way I ask. There's certainly much I don't know. Are you
>> referring to the concept of personal privacy or the state of personal
>> privacy (i.e. the ease with which it can be invaded and trampled
>> upon)? I understand privacy can be invaded in any number of ways, but
>> never in human history have major portions of populations, via
>> technology, enabled powers to clandestinely track them, including
>> their whereabouts, contacts, purchases, transactions, etc.
>
> If I understand the argument correctly, it's about expectation of
> privacy. The argument seems to go along the lines of how, outside
> fairly recent Western societies, privacy didn't really exist due to
the
> living conditions, to the extent that no one really thought much about
> it, much less agonized over whether it was a right, a privilege, a
> circumstance, or a symptom.
I would argue that it dates back at least into the 17th Century. The
writings of the Enlightenment philosophers & scientists clearly had
profound effect upon the founding fathers and are reflected in the
Declaration of Independence, the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights.
The right to privacy is implicit in the 3rd & 4th Amendments and to a
lesser extent in the 5th & 6th.
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