I've been following this thread for a while. First of all, even in america, there are limits to free speech. You don't have a right to harass someone (this is a slippery slope I realize...) or threaten their life. This girls actions repeatedly did so and emphasized and encouraged violence against a group of individuals. If they were black, she'd be a racist and nobody would feel any pity for her. As much as I dislike the current police state that america has become, I still do not hate police because they are all people after all and there are always good and bad people. If people want to get upset, they should be looking at the politicians and prison industrial complex that have made this country into the highest in the world in terms of incarcerations. We don't need fema concentration camps. Our laws weed the lower class from society automatically. We have already lost.
What this young woman did was very hateful and definitely threatening and enticing violent action. All of which are technically against the law here, and for good reasons. Free speech is no free ride. This wasn't an art project. it was intentional harassment. Also not mentioned nearly enough is the already existing restraining order against her. This clearly has been racheting up for a while. She's obviously a moron if you ask me. I guess she was a protester that got arrested and decided cops were all satan. Whatever. Still doesn't give her a right to publically and actively encourage murder. Just some thoughts. Stan Halpin <[email protected]> wrote: >The paranoids will find more than enough to self-justify their paranoid >conspiracy notions; it is a central aspect of the disease. The "need" >to coddle them is not reason enough to allow the propagation of threats >of violence. I am all for freedom of speech and freedom of expression. >But I don't think yelling "Fire" in a crowded theater as a prank is a >legitimate exercise of free speech, nor do I think that death threats >against police or politicians has any place in reasoned public >discourse in a democratic society. > >stan > >On Apr 5, 2013, at 4:54 PM, David Parsons wrote: > >> I disagree. When you censor people, it tends to lend credence to >> their paranoia about the institutions that they distrust. >> >> And when the government feels that it's okay to censor one group, >> they'll eventually feel that it's okay to censor any group. >> >> On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Bob Sullivan <[email protected]> >wrote: >>> No Dave. >>> Censoring opinions that promote killing people is a good idea. >>> I'd rather keep access to guns and censor killing promotion. >>> Regards, Bob S. >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 3:15 PM, David Parsons ><[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Because that leads to censorship. Censoring opinions that we don't >>>> like is fascist. >>>> >>>> Our society very much needs to tolerate the things that we don't >want to hear. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Bob Sullivan ><[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> John, >>>>> I'm with Stan. Why don't we make the world a more civil place? >>>>> No more publishing threats to harm others. >>>>> It's a sickness our society no longer needs to tolerate. >>>>> Regards, Bob S. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 1:50 PM, John Sessoms ><[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> In the U.S. this would be protected by the 1st Amendment. >>>>>> >>>>>> Calling her photo a threat is HORSE CRAP! >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Stan Halpin >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As I read it, the problem is not that she took a picture. The >problem >>>>>>> is that she posted it on a public forum. >>>>>>> Think about it. Making physical threats against the U.S. >President is >>>>>>> going to attract the attention of the Secret Service, making >threats >>>>>>> against others is arguably an offense as well. So, say some >makes a >>>>>>> serious threat, you then copy and/or photograph that threat and >post it. >>>>>>> I don't see how your lack of originality makes you any less >culpable. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> stan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 5, 2013, at 7:58 AM, Darren Addy wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm not sure about Canada, but I would love to get arrested for >>>>>>>> photographing something in the U.S. The judgment I would >eventually >>>>>>>> receive for false arrest would make the proposition quite >profitable. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Igor Roshchin <[email protected]> >wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You may want to think what photos you post: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >http://hyperallergic.com/68151/artist-arrested-for-instagramming-street-art/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Igor >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> David Parsons Photography >>>> http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com >>>> >>>> Aloha Photographer Photoblog >>>> http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
