On Sat, Jul 06, 2013, Bruce Walker wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 2:37 AM, Aahz Maruch <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Sat, Jul 06, 2013, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
>>> On 7/6/2013 2:19 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote:
>>>>On Sat, Jul 06, 2013, Bipin Gupta wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>What Aahz, whats this "would need to get a K-5 first... ;-)" ?? With
>>>>>prices hitting the bottom most at around $ 600 please grab one.
>>>>>You wont regret it. Even the K-5 II is hardly $ 70 more than the K-5.
>>>>
>>>>The problem isn't the body, it's the glass.  I don't own any Pentax
>>>>equipment currently (I rented for my cruise), and I haven't decided yet
>>>>what kind of equipment I want to get medium-term.
>>>
>>> If I was starting from scratch, I would go with NIkon, better range of
>>> dslrs and you can use newer af glass, as well as vintage mf glass.
>>> No FF with Pentax, no vintage mf glass with Canon.
>>
>> Nikon weather-resistant lenses are more spendy than Pentax, I don't care
>> about FF, I like in-camera shake reduction for prime lenses, and I have
>> a soft spot for Pentax because I grew up with it.  Basically, my choices
>> boil down to Pentax, m4/3, or high-end P&S with occasional equipment
>> rental when I need the best (the last is what I'm currently doing).
>>
>> As I mentioned in another post recently, my impression is that long-term
>> (more than 5-10 years out), *all* the camera makers are poor bets due to
>> likely technological disruption, which makes me leery of investing in
>> glass.
> 
> 5-10 years out you could be bored with photography, blind or dead. Buy
> glass now while you can still enjoy it. :-)

Right -- the question is whether I'll enjoy the glass enough over 5-10
years.  The way I think about stuff like this, I guess/calculate how much
it costs per hour.  So a movie these days is about $10-$15/hour (ticket
plus munchies).  So let's look at how much "basic" Pentax gear would cost
me, assuming I buy new (all Amazon prices, rounding to nearest $50):

K-5 II with 18-135 WR   $1150
DA* 60-250              $1350
D-FA 100mm macro WR      $700

That's $3200, divide by $25/hour and that's 128 hours.  So I'd need to
use that for at least 25 hours per year over five years to get my
money's worth.  And that's rock-bottom minimum, I'd really want a
normal or wide-angle lens F2.8 or wider.  Buying used would save some
money at the cost of time (keh.com doesn't have them all right now and a
used 60-250 isn't much cheaper than new).

Then there's the fact that I rented two bodies for the cruise, and it's
really really handy to not switch lenses...

Normally I wouldn't be quite so rigorous in my analysis, but that much
money makes me think, especially when I already have equipment that gives
me about eighty percent of this capability (and is significantly better
in some respects, namely bulk/weight/convenience: Nikon P7100, Canon G1X
with 250D closeup lens, and a Fuji X-S1 that arrives Tuesday).  So
really, that's 25 hrs/yr *in addition* to what I'm already doing for
taking photos.  Makes it a lot harder to justify to myself.
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