Aahz, the primary oversight in your calculation is the apparent assumption that 
your gear will go to $00.00 in value after some number of years. 

A second possible mistake in your calculation is the notion that your gear has 
value only during the hours it is being used. You can't get image files without 
a mechanism to capture those files. Let's call that device a "camera" since 
that is the topic here. So, you use the camera x hours to produce images. But 
you also then have y hours of entertainment (or challenge, agony, boredom, 
fascination, whatever . . . ) processing those images as you transmogrify the 
electrons into web pictures and/or prints. And then, over many years to come, 
you have z hours of pleasure as you and friends and family look at those old 
images and reminisce.

You may prefer to minimize y, but x needs to be large enough to keep z from 
approaching zero. And the camera's per-hour value should be calculated against 
x+y+z, not against x alone IMHO.

stan

On Jul 6, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 06, 2013, Bruce Walker wrote:
>> On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 2:37 AM, Aahz Maruch <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Sat, Jul 06, 2013, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
>>>> On 7/6/2013 2:19 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, Jul 06, 2013, Bipin Gupta wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What Aahz, whats this "would need to get a K-5 first... ;-)" ?? With
>>>>>> prices hitting the bottom most at around $ 600 please grab one.
>>>>>> You wont regret it. Even the K-5 II is hardly $ 70 more than the K-5.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The problem isn't the body, it's the glass.  I don't own any Pentax
>>>>> equipment currently (I rented for my cruise), and I haven't decided yet
>>>>> what kind of equipment I want to get medium-term.
>>>> 
>>>> If I was starting from scratch, I would go with NIkon, better range of
>>>> dslrs and you can use newer af glass, as well as vintage mf glass.
>>>> No FF with Pentax, no vintage mf glass with Canon.
>>> 
>>> Nikon weather-resistant lenses are more spendy than Pentax, I don't care
>>> about FF, I like in-camera shake reduction for prime lenses, and I have
>>> a soft spot for Pentax because I grew up with it.  Basically, my choices
>>> boil down to Pentax, m4/3, or high-end P&S with occasional equipment
>>> rental when I need the best (the last is what I'm currently doing).
>>> 
>>> As I mentioned in another post recently, my impression is that long-term
>>> (more than 5-10 years out), *all* the camera makers are poor bets due to
>>> likely technological disruption, which makes me leery of investing in
>>> glass.
>> 
>> 5-10 years out you could be bored with photography, blind or dead. Buy
>> glass now while you can still enjoy it. :-)
> 
> Right -- the question is whether I'll enjoy the glass enough over 5-10
> years.  The way I think about stuff like this, I guess/calculate how much
> it costs per hour.  So a movie these days is about $10-$15/hour (ticket
> plus munchies).  So let's look at how much "basic" Pentax gear would cost
> me, assuming I buy new (all Amazon prices, rounding to nearest $50):
> 
> K-5 II with 18-135 WR $1150
> DA* 60-250            $1350
> D-FA 100mm macro WR    $700
> 
> That's $3200, divide by $25/hour and that's 128 hours.  So I'd need to
> use that for at least 25 hours per year over five years to get my
> money's worth.  And that's rock-bottom minimum, I'd really want a
> normal or wide-angle lens F2.8 or wider.  Buying used would save some
> money at the cost of time (keh.com doesn't have them all right now and a
> used 60-250 isn't much cheaper than new).
> 
> Then there's the fact that I rented two bodies for the cruise, and it's
> really really handy to not switch lenses...
> 
> Normally I wouldn't be quite so rigorous in my analysis, but that much
> money makes me think, especially when I already have equipment that gives
> me about eighty percent of this capability (and is significantly better
> in some respects, namely bulk/weight/convenience: Nikon P7100, Canon G1X
> with 250D closeup lens, and a Fuji X-S1 that arrives Tuesday).  So
> really, that's 25 hrs/yr *in addition* to what I'm already doing for
> taking photos.  Makes it a lot harder to justify to myself.
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